• Zorque@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’d imagine it’d help make the unhoused who don’t want to have to deal with drunk people feel a lot safer about using them.

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      3 months ago

      and if you want to use public money on it, then the goal has to be to help them get back to society, to which dealing with problematic behavioral patterns, like substance abuse, is a necessity…

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            3 months ago

            You let them continue until they can get a spot in a medical setting where they can safely withdraw.

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              3 months ago
              1. that safe setting may very well be the shelter we are talking about

              2. you are steering away from subject. it is absolutely fair to tell them “being homeless and nuisance in the street is from now on illegal. either you want help to get back to society and then you will accept the help with its terms - you are really not in a position to make demands - or you can move to some unabomber cabin in the middle of nowhere, and there you can do whatever you want”

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                3 months ago

                No, alcohol withdrawal can cause seizures and death. A shelter is not a safe place, especially because they won’t have alcohol for emergencies.

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                3 months ago

                So you want to create an alternate society in the wilds?

                Well that’s one I haven’t thought about since the last time I read Brave New World and thought, good thing we’d never do that.

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                    3 months ago

                    it is absolutely fair to tell them "being homeless and nuisance in the street is from now on illegal. either you want help to get back to society and then you will accept the help with its terms - you are really not in a position to make demands - or you can move to some unabomber cabin in the middle of nowhere, and there you can do whatever you want

                    This you?

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      3 months ago

      So what are the people who depend on alcohol supposed to do? They aren’t allowed to have seizures and go through withdrawal there either.