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take_five_seconds [he/him, any]@hexbear.net to technology@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 year ago

Google pulls the plug on uBlock Origin, leaving over 30 million Chrome users susceptible to intrusive ads

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Google pulls the plug on uBlock Origin, leaving over 30 million Chrome users susceptible to intrusive ads

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  • sexywheat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      Firefox Mobile needs Tab Grouping tho.

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        There are some addons that do that. That’s the good thing about Firefox. Very customisable.

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          Really, for mobile? Because containers aren’t available for Android.

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            Ah yeah not sure if they’re available for mobile, I meant desktop

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              rage-cry You got my hopes up!

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        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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          No, I’m afraid those are just elite bookmarks kept on your home screen. sadness

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              Yes, yes, and yes.😅 There is no tab management besides the ability to move them around on the tab UI page. No grouping, no labeling. I open a LOT of tabs. It’s really been hampering my ff experience. I’ll have to think about Firefox nightly and see how much of a hassle it’ll be.

      • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.net
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        ffupdater gives you access to cool chrome forks, I assume at least one of them will continue to support uBlock Origin going forward.

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Until Google pulls the payment they do to have it as default search engine and it goes to hell

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    Why the fuck does anyone use Chrome? It’s shittier than Firefox in every way and is still a leaky memory hog

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      It’s the only browser installed at my work and they won’t give me admin access boohoo

      • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Me 15 years ago, using Firefox Portable with an Internet Explorer container plugin so I can use trash web apps the organization refuses to update.

    • take_five_seconds [he/him, any]@hexbear.netOP
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      my partner has trouble doing some remote desktop stuff with firefox so they have to use chrome

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        Google meet screen share doesn’t work for me on Firefox, tragically.

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          Probably intentionally too

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            Most definitely intentionally. Everytime I use Google meet it reminds me that because I’m using Firefox I can’t use all the features.

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          Have you tried Chrome Mask? It spoofs Firefox as Chrome

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          Less tragic and more criminal, since Google uses its marketshare to essentially control the development of the web.

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      Everyone knows what Google is, therefore its products are superior even when they’re dogshit. No one knows what Mozilla is

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    uBlock Origin fans can rest at ease since a new and improved version is already available - uBlock Origin Lite

    The Lite version’s capabilities are relatively limited

    so-true it’s new and improved if you count regressions in functionality as an improvement

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      Words don’t mean anything and I hate it.

    • roux [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      When shrinkflation advertising comes for your advertising blocking software.

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her, kit/kit's]@hexbear.net
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    Chrome users

    well, there’s your problem

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    We will welcome them to Firefox.

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    adblocking dns providers are a great no-system-resource, no-battery-usage solution that works in any app/program (not only browsers) and can be added for any system, as well as better online privacy especially using encrypted dns

    independent-run with added top-level domain support:

    • https://pubhole.archuser.org/ips/ (both)
    • https://blahdns.com/ (encrypted)
    • https://libredns.gr/ (encrypted)
    • https://libreops.cc/radicaldns.html (unencrypted)

    corporate:

    • https://adguard-dns.io/kb/general/dns-providers/#default (both)
    • https://doh.tiar.app/ (both)
    • https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls (encrypted)
    • https://alternate-dns.com/ (unencrypted)
    • keweonDNS (both, address info is a bit buried in a forum post)

    FireFox and Chrome both have settings to add encrypted dns for the browser.

    Recommend setting adblocking dns as default on router if possible, sort of makes any router a pi-hole and then automatically sets these as default for any connected device so you can set it once and don’t have to do every device. Try to use at least two different providers for setups with primary/secondary/tertiary in case one has a temporary outage.

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      Excellent info. Saving this for later.

      Does this block YouTube ads?

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        It can’t block same domain advertisements, but you can use a proxy such as Invidious, an alternative front end such as FreeTube or Grayjay (Android) or pipe that shit into MPV and use an RSS feed reader.

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        it’s a first line of defense against ads, tracking, malware, and phishing for every device and program that access the internet. as hello2 mentions it can’t stop everything. for something like youtube additional solutions are needed.

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    Including to vastly more malware ads…

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      Gonna be really funny if it causes something that makes the whole crowdstrike thing look tame by comparison

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      I once stood behind someone and watched them click on a banner ad that says “DOWNLOAD NOW!” while trying to download Notepad++

      They didn’t see it on the list of apps, so they refreshed the page and clicked on a different download banner ad and installed a second malware lol

      • Tabitha ☢️[she/her]@hexbear.net
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        almost all of those general websites for winblows executables seem to have ads pretending to be download buttons, like 100% of the time, it seems like natural fauna of the windows ecosystem at this point.

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    First off don’t use chrome.

    If you do use it. I don’t know use a dns.

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      Also websites are going to start blocking firefox citing low user counts but you know what the real reason is

      http://cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/mozilla-exec-says-google-slowed-youtube-down-on-non-chrome-browsers/

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      small differences/invisible watermarks that uniquely identify

      This has never worked so far lol. Their “invisible watermark” always ruins the media even beyond treathog consumption levels.

      Otherwise is there anything the individual user should be doing, short of not buying smart TVs (me) and not buying TPM chipped computers?

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        You’re interpreting the term watermark too literally

        It will be a small unique arrangement of just a few pixels to identify the user

        It can even be distributed across the screen pixel by pixel to make it less noticeable

        All they’d have to do is make each pixel 1 hex code lighter or darker or something

        Assuming each pixel can have no change, 1 step lighter, or 1 step darker, it’d only take 22 pixels to cover 31B accounts = 3^22

        I believe there’s 25B Google accounts in total out there atm

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          In every frame, easily identifiable by a shitty pinhole camera though?

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            I updated my comment with more details

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              It’s plausible but unlikely I think, putting a lot of faith into shitty pinhole cameras to be able to see twenty two 4K pixels one hex value lighter or darker, when most cameras have atrocious definition/sharpness and get blown out by light, blinded by darkness. I dunno, this reminds me of the screaming around Microsoft Kinect in 2013. They had bad and shitty plans for Kinect but, cheap hardware everyone hated Idk.

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                I feel like if you just slightly turn up the compression ratio then all that nuance is lost making the watermark nonexistent or unusable

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                  Yes especially since Netflix in particular has atrocious compression.

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              Quotin’

              putting a lot of faith into shitty pinhole cameras to be able to see twenty two 4K pixels one hex value lighter or darker, when most cameras have atrocious definition/sharpness and get blown out by light, blinded by darkness.

              I guess if the TV itself was doing the DRM recognition? Idk though, I’ve seen alarmist posting like this before… seems to me evil tech shit usually gets done in more mundane ways?

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          I data horde, and I don’t pay for even one stream screm-cool I should donate to foss projects more but I am broke, alas.

          IPFS sounds theoretically cool… As for TPM the newest PC in my house is a Zen Plus B450 machine that doesn’t even meet the Windows 11 TPM requirments, and the last W11 install in my house is about to get swapped for a W10 LTCS install, for g*ming. When that dies I will just run Linux/W7 honestly.

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        I rate it a shrux out of torvalds-nvidia needs more no-fun-allowed

        On the flip side China is eventually going to transition all their computers to GNU/Linux once this happens.

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      How do you have these emojis?

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        Hexbear has accumulated a vast amount of emojis over time.

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        I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

        • yewtu.be
        • inv.nadeko.net
        • yt.artemislena.eu
        • piped.video
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    Damn they’re actually going through with it…

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    In related news I recently set up a DNS server in my home network with adware/malware blocking and set my router to use it as static DNS so my whole house has to use it, including my parents. It was shockingly easy to do with NixOS.

    I’m going to make a separate post on how I did it using an old Thinkpad x220 in case anyone is interested or I get around to doing it.

    Anyway, use Firefox and ffprofile creator, it’s not that hard.

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      Please make this post!

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      Which way did you set up an adblocking DNS with NixOS? Blocky?

      I’ve got an old raspberry pi running pihole. But I’ve also got a tiny headless computer doing my routing which is using NixOS. (As of yet I’m too much of a novice to set up all the firewall rules myself, so I have OPNsense running in a VM…) It’d be nice if I could just obsolete the pi and unify all my stuff into the router for more frequent updates.

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        I’m using technitium DNS server which has module in NixOS.

        It seems relatively well maintained and has what I need (web interface, one click set up etc.)

        I’m still new to this stuff so I’m figuring it out as I test things out. I didn’t want to buy a raspberry pi so I used an old libreboot thinkpad I had that I never used.

        NixOS modules eliminate a lot of the jank involved which is why I use it, I’ve also used NixOS as a desktop in the past so it only makes sense.

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      I did this and my mother complained because it was blocking the ad slop she likes to click on

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        sads. My mom has yet to complain.

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    Wait, there’s only 30 mil Chrome users? I thought there were way more than that

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        Because it only affects one percent of the userbase. There’s no short term loss. Your clients (ad companies, Big Corp) see that you’re Doing Something. And, more importantly, Big Tech is removing the copper wiring out of the walls. They want to monetize ad space as much as humanly possible. YouTube is already showing 4-5 ads to normies as we speak.

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            “oh I’m used to the ads”

            In bad country, the children have resigned themselves in being the target of relentless predatory advertising through an implanted sense of worship to highly marketable treats.

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            Honestly, it won’t be long before you can’t use a blocker for those ads anyway. Most services now inject the ads right into the data stream for the video you’re watching dynamically. To try and block those ads is to try and block the same video of the content you want to watch.

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              If that happens and it’s truly impossible to work around it will finally be the day I get off my ass and read Das Kapital in its entirity.

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                  TPM kril-stare

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            well he was raised by youtube. he’s been seeing the ads his whole life, sponsor and otherwise. it’s like with older people who don’t mind seeing ads on their netflix plan - its just tv for them.

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              I was raised by YouTube as well, it’s just a matter of being radicalized to stop giving a shit and prioritizing yourself. I’d still be watching ads on yt if I never became a leftist.

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        I do think there are a lot of users that run adblockers that are not ublock so the number might be higher in terms of adblocking users.

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    uBlock Origin will continue to work as usual across other browsers, including Microsoft Edge, Opera, and more.

    badeline-disgust

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      I’ve been saying this for a while now, but Edge is a better browser than Chrome.

      Corporate browsers still suck at privacy, but Microsoft absolutely made a better Chromium browser than Google. Functional vertical tabs. Excellent memory management. Compatibility with all Chrome and Brave extensions (anything Chromium works).

      Windows, Mac, and Linux releases, and it’s (mostly) open source.

      Strictly from a UX and reliability standpoint, it might be the superior browser on the market. I use it at work for that very purpose.

      Firefox respects privacy more though, so that’s my preference on any personal machine, even if it needs to catch up with other browsers in the UX department.

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        I despise Edge because of the shit that pops up when I accidentally open it. Terrible browser. I don’t care how good the features or optimization is

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          Firefox has an ad-laden default page as well. You can turn it off on any browser.

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        (mostly) open source

        It’s proprietary. Same goes for Vivaldi which is also non-free.

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