• @jimmyjazx
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    421 year ago

    What defund actually means…

    • SlowNPC
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      241 year ago

      “Defund the Police” was some of the worst branding/slogan I’ve ever seen. Like, opponents would literally just say “Can you believe they want to defund the Police?”

      The actual ideas of the movement, like the program in this article, are great. They’re popular, too. Demilitarizing the police has pretty widespread support.

      But the first-glance impression of lawless anarchy that the “Defund” slogan brings up… You shouldn’t need to explain why your slogan doesn’t mean what it appears to mean.

      • @jimmyjazx
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        81 year ago

        That’s true, but I’m not sure any amount of clever messaging would matter to something like 75% of the US population when they want less accountible, more militarized police. It’s like the Kaepernick kneeling thing, no matter how respectful and polite you are, they don’t want what you want…

        • @Sharkwellington
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          51 year ago

          Right but why would you get in your own way considering it’s already an uphill climb?

      • @sin_free_for_00_days
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        21 year ago

        That and “Black Lives Matter” were two incredibly poor branding choices at the same time. I couldn’t understand why they needed to shoot themselves in their feet.

    • @Crimesawastin@lemmy.world
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      71 year ago

      It means a lot of things. A big chunk of the movement wants police abolition, too. It’s a radical movement, i don’t want to see the teeth taken out of it.

      • @jimmyjazx
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        61 year ago

        That’s true, I dont speak for anyone but myself. It’s hard enough to convince the unconvinced of bare accountability, let alone abolition!

        • @Crimesawastin@lemmy.world
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          41 year ago

          It’s cool, I figured you weren’t trying to undermine anyone. I don’t think straight-up authoritarians can be convinced that cops should have anything but absolute power. Better to try to convince compassionate liberals that radical solutuons are worth a shot. The activists they lionize were a lot more radical than they think. Some spicy MLK quotes might work. Idk, BLM got me to start learning about history, and it radicalized me a lot.

    • @Skiptrace
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      61 year ago

      I don’t think this is defunding. This is using resources better. Often times, there are mental health crisis that look like “police” issues. But they are actually just mental health problems.

      Mental health is super heavily stigmatized across the world.

      • Widget
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        111 year ago

        Part of “defund the police” includes “fund mental health services” using the money that used to pay for police and police accessories.

    • D2LOP
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      41 year ago

      I so agree! Not my original content, I wanted to share it so hopefully it can be talked about and spread.

      Programs like these save lives! I have family that I am sure would not be here, had awarness not progressed where they were living, because of cops being called for mental health situations.

  • @grizuhly@lemmy.ml
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    231 year ago

    Hmmm it’s almost like sending fully armed and decked out gang members to respond to mental health crises would result in exacerbated circumstances??? Wild stuff.

    /s

    But for real I love this program and hope to see it spread throughout the country

  • corytheboyd
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    181 year ago

    Hell yeah, let’s go Colorado. Another one for the list: I moved to the mountains southwest of Denver and got symmetric gigabit internet thanks to the municipal broadband changes. The incumbents here charge at least $100/month for like 20mbps down (they don’t advertise up speed). Go fuck yourself HughesNet and co. (and Comcast of course)

    • Aaron-Davis363
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      21 year ago

      @corytheboyd I don’t live in Colorado, but I also got HughesNet and while it started out ok, that was just to lure me in. By the end of it, I had to beg them every month to give me faster speeds because it would slow to a crawl. Never again am I getting satelite. I’ll only ever rent if I am able to have municipally owned gigabit ethernet that has little to no chance of being throttled. Anything slower and I can’t do my work.

      @Death2lois

  • @bug
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    81 year ago

    Err… Did the USA not already have the option to send an ambulance full of paramedics to emergency calls? What do they do if someone calls and reports a heart attack, send round the rozzers to arrest their heart?

    • @ThatOneBatTurd
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      91 year ago

      Yes, sending paramedics is normal. Including the mental health expert and not sending cops for certain calls is new.

      In most of the US, if someone is having a mental health crisis where they may hurt themselves or others, the only option has been to call the emergency line and have cops sent. Cops don’t receive adequate training on how to deal with those situations and far too many have ended in the death of the person needing help

      • @bug
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        41 year ago

        Fair enough, congrats on now doing the bare minimum required I guess!

  • @rist097@lemmy.world
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    31 year ago

    What? Only for some certain types of calls or all of them? Wouldnt make any sense to send a mental health expert for an armed robbery.

    • Bipta
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      131 year ago

      I’m guessing the lack of clarification is due to Twitter character count limits.

      • dedale
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        41 year ago

        If only there was another way to share that information…

        Now that I’ve been snarky, this is a great step in the right direction.