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- aiop@lemmy.world
Donald Trump has blamed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for last month’s failed assassination attempt against him by accusing them of making it difficult for the Secret Service to protect him.
The Republican presidential nominee’s claim – for which he offered no evidence – was made on the television talkshow Dr Phil, hosted by Phil McGraw, on Tuesday. The remarks follow disclosures that several Secret Service agents from the Pittsburgh field office had been placed on administrative leave after the 13 July shooting.
At a campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, last month, Trump was grazed on the ear by a bullet after a 20-year-old gunman opened fire from the roof of a nearby building. One rallygoer, Corey Comperatore, was killed and two others were seriously wounded. The gunman was shot dead by a Secret Service officer at the scene.
“When this happened, people would ask, whose fault is it?” Trump told McGraw. “I think to a certain extent it’s Biden’s fault and Harris’s fault. And I’m the opponent. They were weaponising government against me, they brought in the whole DoJ to try and get me, they weren’t too interested in my health and safety.
Not in good faith.
What’s not in good faith? Did any reputable news source call him an outright ring wing extremist?
He was a confirmed conservative Republican voter, so right-wibg on any account. And him trying to assassinate the president makes him extreme.
So he is a right wing extremist. Doesn’t matter what the media calls him. Fox News calls Trump Mr President when he clearly lost.
Confirmed by whom? Multiple independent and unbiased parties?
This is what arguing in bad faith looks like. If someone replies with sources, you will claim bias. Name a news source you consider to be unbiased.
Every news organization is biased. Unless you hear it from the horse’s mouth, it’s probably speculation. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask a person if they have any proof of this. Most people have no actual way to defend their opinions besides linking to another opinion—this includes me and you.
It’s also pretty unlikely that any real information would be released because of “national security.” Neither party wants people to side with him, because that might encourage copycats.
My guess is that he has no firm political party preference. I’m a registered democrat, but I’m hardly a fan of them. He was wearing a D/R shirt when he got shot. And as I’m sure you know, they are focused on giving power to the people, as opposed to a central government. Assassinating the leader of the central government is pretty on-brand. However, I’m sure the political ideologies of that group have probably shifted since 1820 😅
Do you have multiple independent and unbiased parties confirming the shirt he was wearing?
The logo was on the shirt 🤷♂️
Were you there to see it? I wasn’t. We need to make sure we’re evaluating information using multiple sources of independent and unbiased information. The image could have been photoshopped.
Okay, so go do some research on your own and get back to us.
Why? I don’t care what you think.
So you won’t accept the research done by others and won’t do it on your own.
this is not how political extremism works?
Who let the hexbear alt on this thread?
oh it absolutely is debated in good faith, unless you have pretty stout evidence that this guy was a neo nazi or something i’m content with him just being an “extremist” instead of a “right wing extremist” you might argue it’s “right wing, extremist” but no
He was clearly right wing. And clearly an extremist. Are you an idiot?
yeah but that doesn’t make him a right wing extremist. That makes him a right winger, and an extremist.
You can be political extreme, and politically moderate, you can politically extreme, and socially moderate. He was politically moderate, and socially extreme.
Are you really being so fucking pedantic that you distinguish between right wing;extremist and ring wing,extremist? If so, look in the mirror and reevaluate your blind biases.
it’s not pedantic? This is like complaining about me mentioning that authoritarianism isn’t actually explicitly for right wing ideologies, left wing ideologies can exhibit authoritarianism, and actually authoritarianism itself is entirely agnostic to the concept of “political alignment” it’s just a style of governance.
Being a political extremist implies that you are either right wing extreme, left wing extreme, (or i guess an extremist centrist?) The purposes of your extremism are to further your political ambitions.
Being a social extremist just means you do things that extreme because you personally believe they will have some effect of impact, and of which, you don’t really care.
if crookes were a political extremist, he would’ve had an online presence, he would’ve had some sort of manifesto, he would’ve said something and actually planned this out properly. He did none of these things, happened to get lucky, and then get unlucky. He literally didn’t care who he killed, or what for, or probably even if he killed them at all.
like don’t get me mistaken, if this kid was a groyper or some shit, i would be inclined to agree with you, but as far as i know, he isn’t and wasn’t.