• charliespider@lemmy.ca
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        Claiming that someone’s homophobia is because they are secretly gay is ultimately blaming the gays for said homophobia.

        It’s also entirely possible that someone is just a hateful piece of shit.

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          Women can be sexist and nonwhite people can be racist: being a member of a marginalized group unfortunately doesn’t inherently keep someone from perpetuating the discrimination against said group. It’s absolutely true that a lot of, and definitely the majority, of homophobic people are straight, but a lot of the terror-based homophobia stems from projection.

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          I get what you’re saying.
          But usually it’s really they are a hateful piece of shit because they are secretly gay. The loudest ones tend to be the most secretly what they are yelling about.

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            i just don’t believe that that’s actually true, though. most homophobes are just pieces of shit, not secretly gay

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                  Honestly, I misread what you said and thought you were saying angry gay people were mostly bad people. Lol yikes, I apologize

                  That’s embarrassing

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                  no you’re not an asshole. I agree with you that some people are just homophobic pos and not secretly gay. But for this one in particular, if true, it’s screaming insecurity rather than homophobia.

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          Yeah, he may be just a POS, but he seems to think so hard in what looks gay or not… looks like he’s hiding.

        • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          Um, I’d argue that it’s blaming the people that drive others to subvert their own tendencies, e.g. the gay-is-icky crowd of which the Christian national movement is a subset.

          If gay was truly okay, and we didn’t have guys who felt pressured to be alpha masc, then no-one would blink twice when a toddler liked flowers and rainbows.