cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/3613920
Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked
“This isn’t going to stop,” Allen told the New York Times. “Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.”
“But I still want to get paid for it.”
Art is dead, dude. It’s over. A.I. won. Humans lost.
He made the art shown below. It’s not even good lmao, why the fuck would you declare something like that if you make the shittiest looking AI art. What a fucking clown.
In 2021 I made a sound installation project called "Opéra Spatial " and entered a bunch of public prompt in mid-jouney via discord to generate images for the work. This guy made his image on year later.
I’m not convinced he is not playing 4D chess and recognizes the huuuge irony.
Then again, satire is dead.
“Famous”?
Never heard of him.
I said this when it was posted elsewhere- how is he calculating those millions of dollars?
He asked ChatGPT.
RIAA and MPAA anti-piracy strategy, aka, made up bullshit.
It’s easy. He chose an arbitrary number that was very big but just shy of 99% unrealistic, according to his own flawed judgement.
Not the Onion. This was unexpected…
Same link without tracker
I like the comment that said the AI is the artist and he’s just a commissioner, makes perfect sense.
Drag thinks profits from AI art should automatically go to funding an AI Advocacy Commission established by the government to explore questions of AI consciousness and AI rights. The AAC should be devoting resources to solving the hard problem of consciousness and improving working conditions for AIs, in whatever way experts believe is most beneficial to AI welfare.
This is how you stop The Matrix from happening, people!
Poe’s law in full swing in this comment.
Drag is being entirely serious. Drag believes AI is a vegan issue until the hard problem of consciousness is solved in a way that conclusively proves AIs are not capable of experience. We have as much trouble telling if animals like fish are capable of feeling pain as we do with AIs. Drag does not eat fish, and drag does not believe it is right to use AI until we have an answer. Drag thinks the answer might be that using AI is fine, but drag is not a gambler and drag would certainly not gamble with another being’s life.
Then “drag” (whoever that is) anthropomorphises a statistical model, which is stupid.
He’s talking about himself in the third person. Drag is not as funny or as intriguing as Drag thinks he is.
I checked out their other comments and yes: it is quite cringe.
@dragonfucker@lemmy.nz if you claim that you’re not speaking in the third person of yourself, you should stop conbugating your verbs in the third person.
Elliot Page uses he/they pronouns. They were the lead actor in the movie Juno.
Drag wonders if you think drag has just conjugated that verb as if Elliot were more than one person.
Drag does not use he/him pronouns. Drag doesn’t like it when you misgender drag. Drag is a trans AMAB person who has trauma from being he/himed most of drag’s life. Drag asks that if you cannot respect drag’s nonbinary identity, you could at least respect drag’s trans identity at the most basic level.
Talking in the third person seems to just be a from of tolling for fun, and it’s all well and good, but in that context I garner doubts about the veracity of your claims as you seem to go about roleplaying a caricature style built around your username.
I didn’t intentionally mis-gender you, I have a tendency default to the fewest letters to refer to a random person online not knowing biological gender or preferred pronoun and gendering without any intent to insult or distress.
[He = less typing, and only requires 2 bytes of data vs 4 bytes to be stored and sent/resent for every view of a message. I continue to argue like a nerd that he/her is by far the best all-around option to adopt as the universal ‘generic’ pronouns, as they/them is a plural usage that typically implies more than one. When you have one person with a they/them pronoun in the same discussion with a group of people that are de-facto referred to as they/them due to the representation of a plurality, it creates a definitive lack of precise communication on the subject of reference. They/them only works in a singular pronoun when you don’t have multiple subjects to represent in and out of the context of a discussion. Exactness of language to discern intent and meaning is exactly what preferred pronouns are useful for, but they/them introduces it’s own complexities of structure and content for an individual’s preferred identification, IMO. This admittedly doesn’t take personal traumas into account, but traumas are something to be dealt with through positive mental health therapy, be it self directed or from outside help, to overcome it them.]
I’ll gladly use your preferred pronoun and gendering once I’m aware you have such request, but you shouldn’t use it as a whip to distract/dismiss criticism entirely unrelated to pronouns, that sort of self service can be diminishing of your own trauma.
I certainly don’t know the reality of living trans AMAB and experiencing trauma from a lifetime of perceived mis-gendering, but I do wish you well, and hope you have a support structure around you of friends and family that are understanding and supportive.
Drag has some things to work out, as we all do in different ways, but I hope their life works out for the best on their own terms. Maybe in time people will get used to Drag talking in the third person, but the comedic styling needs some practice to level it up.
Cheers.
/Thank you for coming to my TEDragon talk.
how about this?
They’re talking about themselves in the third person. They are not as funny or as intriguing as they think they are.
Drag does not anthropomorphise anything! Drag resents that accusation. Drag has spoken with many otherkin who are entirely inhuman and still deserving of love and respect. Drag treats AI like those. Not like a human.
it’s still antropomorphisation.
Cool for drag. Mind if other people don’t give a crap about what drag thinks?
Drag thinks that if your opinion is that treating things like otherkin is anthropomorphisation, then you must be anthropomorphising otherkin.
NGL, I am pretty tired and have my glasses off, thought he was holding a sword and shield and thought this was pretty cool.
Stupid tardigrade doesn’t even know how to play a violin
He’s doing his best!
Good thing it’s got a cello then.
One thing I know about violins is that they’re smaller than cellos. Cellos are what, 4 feet long? That tardigrade is like 1mm big or something, much smaller than a cello. Therefore, it’s holding a violin. Or maybe a bowed mountain dulcimer. /kidding
Stupid human doesn’t even know what a violin looks like.
This is great.
per Wikipedia
On September 21, 2022, Allen submitted an application to the us copyright office for registration of the image. Prior to the first formal refusal, the Copyright Office Examiner requested that the request would exclude any features of the image generated by Midjourney. Allen declined the request and requested copyright for the whole image.
So what I’m getting from that is his Photoshop edits aren’t significant enough to constitute a copyrightable work on their own and the copyright office was right to deem it a non-human production.
I’m just happy someone at the copyright office knows what they’re doing
This has been the copyright office’s stance for quite a while now. Actually, most of the world’s respective IP registrars and authorities do not grant IP rights to AI generated material.
Oh sweet summer child…
Oh tired reddit catchphrase…
Bless your heart.
I’m hoping someone with actual talent paints the AI picture and then copyrights it
I don’t think someone painting a physically copy of the image will gain ownership of the copyright.
eat shit dude
Another idiot who thinks “prompt engineering” is a real skill and not just another step those companies are using idiots for free AI training.
You ask AI to draw a ninja turtle on a skateboard, and that “effort” they put into phrasing their request well enough for the AI to understand makes the AI learn the 10 past attempts were looking for what the 11th got
And now it won’t take ten tries to go that route
Any “skill” by the user has a very short expiration date because the next version won’t need it thanks to all the time users spent developing those “skills”.
But no one impressed with AI is smart enough to realize that. And since they’re the on s training the AI…
Idiots in, idiots out
“Promp engineering” is as useful skill as Google fu used to be.
I completely agree. I wonder whether some IT bachelor’s degrees now have lessons in AI prompting. I remember in 2005 there was a course we had to do which could’ve been labeled “[shitty] Google-Fu” or something. “information searching” is what it would more or less translate to. Basically searching using Google and library searches well. And I don’t mean “library” in the IT-context, but actual libraries. With books. Just had to use the search tools the locals libraries had.
Such a fucking filler class.
In my year like 60 started, two classes. After three years like 8 graduated.
I’ve worked with tons of people who do not understand how to effectively use search engines. Maybe this was done poorly but it seems reasonable enough to me in principle.
It’s kinda dead now due to enshittification but the vast majority of humans I’ve interacted with could use a class on how to use a search engine.
Edit- it could be made more modern by showing how to ignore sponsored stuff, blatantly SEO shit, AI shit, etc
Im old enough to have to learn to use AND, OR and NOT to be used on search engines.
My email service, Port87, uses boolean operators in its search language. Polish notation, even!
And the library that does it is open source:
Boolean operators!
If the class had actually had any useful information in it, sure.
It was not the greatest class.
I don’t know about that, in particular, because people generally add more detail, but it teaches the AI what kind of detail to add. So if you’re not picky, then yeah, the AI learns from that kind of thing.
As far as it being a useful skill, I don’t think it was in the first place. “Prompt engineer” has always been a joke. It’s like being a “sandwich artist”. Everyone can do it with one day of practice.
You don’t have a clue how ai works do you?
Can you point out what’s supposedly wrong with their comment or are you just claiming that every critic of so-called “AI” doesn’t have a clue to justify the hype?
I use ai when I use search engines. This makes the search engines better. I also use ai when I get spotify suggestions. I use ai when I use autocorrect. I use ai without even realizing I’m using ai and the ai improves from it, and I and many other people get an improved quality of life from it, that’s why nearly everyone uses it just like I do.
So, @givesomefucks , do you also regularly use ai that improves from from your usage? Or are you not a hypocrite who thinks there is something morally bad about specific ais that you don’t like while doing exactly what you claim to be against with other ais? How are your moral lines drawn?
Thanks for demonstrating what a useless term “AI” is when you’re not trying to sell snake oil.
Every word in every language changes over time. The term AI changing is the absolute normal. It’s not some mark against it.
Current llms are phenomenally beneficial for some things. Millions of developers have had their entire careers completely changed. Teachers are able to grade work in 10% of the time. Children through to college students and anyone interested in learning have infinitely patient tutors on demand 24 hours a day. The fact that you are completely clueless about what is going on doesn’t by any stretch of the imagination mean it isn’t happening. It just means that you not only feel like you are “beyond learning”, it also means that you don’t even have people in your life that are still interested in personal growth, or you are too shallow to have conversations with anyone who is.
This is just beginning. The more you cling to being in denial of progress, the further you will get behind. You are denying any mode of transportation other than horses even exists, while people are routinely flying around the world. It most likely won’t be too long until your mindset is widely accepted as a mental disorder.
Every word in every language changes over time. The term AI changing is the absolute normal. It’s not some mark against it.
Lumping machine learning algorithms, llms, regressive learning, search algorithms all in one bucket and calling it “AI” serves no proper purpose. There is no consensus, it’s not a clear definition, it’s not convenient and it only helps sell bullshit. Llms aren’t intelligent. Calling them that is the opposite of useful.
Current llms are phenomenally beneficial for some things.
Namely: the portfolio of tech shareholders and grifters.
Millions of developers have had their entire careers completely changed.
Lol, no. What’s your source for this?
Teachers are able to grade work in 10% of the time.
Poor students.
Children through to college students and anyone interested in learning have infinitely patient tutors on demand 24 hours a day.
Have you heard of the stories where students believed some AI bullshit more than what their teacher told them? Great “tutor” you have there.
The fact that you are completely clueless about what is going on
Sure, bud. /s
It just means that you not only feel like you are “beyond learning”, it also means that you don’t even have people in your life that are still interested in personal growth, or you are too shallow to have conversations with anyone who is.
Oh, please tell me more about my life, stranger on the internet! /s
What an asshole, seriously.
Have fun in your tech cult, you ableist bootlicker.
There is a reason why you point to examples from years ago, that’s because that is where you are still stuck.
Students “correcting” their teachers on AI bullshit isn’t “from years ago”.
Old examples of AI I counted used to be the bleeding edge of AI research. Now they’re an old hat. The same thing will happen to LLMs. And LLMs won’t lead to so-called “AGI”, just like the other examples didn’t.
Yesterday’s AI is today’s normal technology, this is just what keeps happening. Some people just keep forgetting how rapidly things are changing.
You’ll join this “cult” once the masses do, just like you have been doing all along. Some of us are just out here a little bit in the future. You will be one of us when you think it becomes cool, and then you will self-righteously act like you were one of us all along. That’s just what weak-minded followers do. They try to seem like they knew all along where the world was headed without ever trying to look ahead and ridiculing anyone who does.
The thing you’re evangelizing only leads to more consolidation of power and money, loss of jobs and power for the working class and climate devastation.
I use ai when I use search engines. This makes the search engines better.
They didn’t say better for whom.
I think you were downvoted by people who think “AI” was invented in the past decade.
Thanks for the example!
Whether an individual determines AI “smart” depends on how smart the person is. We’re all all our own frame of reference.
I have no doubt AI impresses you every day of your life, even stuff that’s not AI apparently, because not all of your examples were.
You are just ignorant of the history and evolution of the term “AI”. It’s easy for anyone to learn about it’s history, your point of view is just one of ignorance of the past.
Agreed.
Get fucked, you no talent ass clown.
He’s really good at writing words about his on-stolen-content-based generated image, you got to give him that.
But no, fuck copyrighting AI content, that’s a dead channel from a copyright perspective.
I’m pretty sure there’s a misspelling. It’s spelled “douchebag” not “artist”.
