It is not enough to counter fascism militarily, as Antifa does, though that is important. To truly defeat fascism, we must win over a substantial segment of the social strata that make up its mass base.
This article keeps mentioning that the “left” relies too much on establishment liberal society to push agendas, and that alienates those who are drawn to fascism. What isn’t mentioned is the social base for fascism comprise of members of that liberal order, like small business owners or people embedded in imperialist domination, like cops or feds.
I’ve mentioned this around, but American fascism doesn’t comprise the same people as when Germany went fascist. Our average fascists come in two varieties: A white 55 year old pool supply shop owner who is terribly overweight and likes to trigger the libs, the other type being a completely nuts teenager who has melted their brain on 4chan.
Germany’s social base were WW1 vets and street gangs. They were already militant before getting organized for fascism specifically, so who exactly are we supposed to win over?
We’re supposed to win over the boomer warehouse owner who refused to hire immigrants? We’re supposed to win over Twitch streamers with names like “Based Polish Nationalist”? Who exactly are we trying to win over here? Because the ones drawn to fascism at this point are already deep within it. They’re the tip of the spear who are attempting to manifest fascism into practice, they’re not some confused wayward members of the masses. They know what fascism is and why they’d want it
Maybe I’m cynical. I know some comrades here who used to identify as fascists before they got their head on straight, but that seems so rare and exceptional.
I guess that’s something at least, but I don’t know how effective that is long term. As much as twitch streamers are a vehicle for spreading our propaganda, at the end of the day they’re professionals doing a job and people gaining their political outlook from twitch streams just strike me as politically fickle
This article keeps mentioning that the “left” relies too much on establishment liberal society to push agendas, and that alienates those who are drawn to fascism. What isn’t mentioned is the social base for fascism comprise of members of that liberal order, like small business owners or people embedded in imperialist domination, like cops or feds.
I’ve mentioned this around, but American fascism doesn’t comprise the same people as when Germany went fascist. Our average fascists come in two varieties: A white 55 year old pool supply shop owner who is terribly overweight and likes to trigger the libs, the other type being a completely nuts teenager who has melted their brain on 4chan.
Germany’s social base were WW1 vets and street gangs. They were already militant before getting organized for fascism specifically, so who exactly are we supposed to win over?
We’re supposed to win over the boomer warehouse owner who refused to hire immigrants? We’re supposed to win over Twitch streamers with names like “Based Polish Nationalist”? Who exactly are we trying to win over here? Because the ones drawn to fascism at this point are already deep within it. They’re the tip of the spear who are attempting to manifest fascism into practice, they’re not some confused wayward members of the masses. They know what fascism is and why they’d want it
Maybe I’m cynical. I know some comrades here who used to identify as fascists before they got their head on straight, but that seems so rare and exceptional.
I think it’s people like :hasan-ok-dude: , who can culture a viewership that is sympathetic to our causes, that are the key
I guess that’s something at least, but I don’t know how effective that is long term. As much as twitch streamers are a vehicle for spreading our propaganda, at the end of the day they’re professionals doing a job and people gaining their political outlook from twitch streams just strike me as politically fickle