• Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    How the hell is he winning so much of the Black and Hispanic vote? Like… any percentage at all?

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      A higher percent of the Hispanic support than any republican nominee in history (as high as 45%) with closest next being George W. Bush.

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      He’s not, he had higher polling with African Americans in the last two elections than actual voters, he had extremely low voting numbers with African Americans, slightly higher with men, but not by that much, it’s really common in politics to have a lot of people doing shady bullshit to see if it will sway elections, also the population nation wide is low enough that getting a sample size that’s actually representative is not likely, even some trusted unbiased polling was using the opinion of one single person to represent all polling numbers in a whole state and the poll was pretty old by that point as well, so with African Americans you see a lot of really strange lookin poll numbers, but believe me, Trump going after Haitian refugees with racist tropes about ‘‘savage’’ and voodoo bullshit made him quite vile to antiracists of all stripes, I don’t think those numbers are going to pan out at all.

      Now Hispanics, that’s a whole different story, being Hispanic myself I can tell you, it’s not a solid voting block. We aren’t as good at consistently voting in our own interests. There’s light skinned people who think they’re white enough to be in the whites only club, racism isn’t hard to find among Hispanics, many do hate African Americans and others, so the white identifying crowd can be pretty similar to racist whites in a lot of ways, you also have Hispanics that are very concerned with hyper mauculinity and want the strongest man, and only think in terms of displays vs substance, and there’s deeply religious Hispanics who can get drawn in with the evangelical rhetoric. So your not going to see a big percentage on one vote or issue with Hispanics, it’s always going to be a mixed bag even with Trump’s promise too deport more Hispanics from the US regardless of legal status, or his call backs to ‘‘operation wetback’’ or this bullshit, you just won’t see big sweeping numbers from Hispanics it will always be slip up.

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        There’s light skinned people who think they’re white enough to be in the whites only club

        Bro I’m whiter than sour cream, I’m actually grateful for global warming because everytime it snows no one in my family can find each other anymore, and I’m STILL not white enough to be in the Whites Only Club. You need white skin AND approval from a lot of guys named Ben, Franklin that is, if you get what I’m saying…

        Money you need a lot of money.

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      Hispanics have a very high population of religious voters and many of them don’t believe in abortion. For many religious people, even if they disagree handily with everything else the Republican party does, they will not vote Democrat because of the abortion issue.

      There was a pretty large research study and a bunch of podcasts on it.

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        This! My guess is that being religious and conservative is at least 75% of the reason why Hispanics would support Trump. My father was a Colombian born immigrant who in my memory always supported the Republican party and the majority of the years after he got his citizenship I’m certain he never voted Democrat. He did come around though before passing in 2023 and I’m pretty sure he did not support or vote for Trump. >

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      Because most people don’t follow politics that closely and are simply unaware of stories like this, but are vulnerable to the forces of nostalgia and false memories of the first Trump administration, plus lingering fondness from the character he played on the Apprentice.

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        If Harris loses, I know the fact that they didn’t constantly run ads showing the Pandemic of 2020 asking “Do you really wanna go back to THIS?” is partially to blame

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        See, at this point… I’m either convinced Harris has pretty much got this in the bag and the media is lying to get people to doomscroll because money, or there’s a Copium Leak and when it’s fixed I’ll see that Trump is coming to kill us all.

        The former feels weirdly more valid…

        Still VOTE, I ALREADY HAVE! MY STATE HAS EARLY VOTING, FIND OUT IF YOURS DOES TOO!

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          I desperately want to believe that about the media, but Tim Miller and the folks at Pod Save America (whom I trust to be brutally honest) are also constantly talking about how close the race is. I’m so fucking depressed about this shit. We are this close to having a literal fascist as President.

          This fucking son of a bitch had to ask John Kelly who the good guys were in WWI.

          FUCK.

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            Nate Silver’s said he’s already calling it for Trump, which doesn’t feel good to know, because the last time he said that Trump won.

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                I was hoping for that, but then I realized swing states legalized marriage voting, where the man can decide the woman’s vote and go into the booth with her to ensure it.

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          You probably have confirmation bias based on your environment. I own a contracting company and many in the trades drink the koolaid, and are completely blind that they are voting themselves poor over the long term.

          Some people can only learn through pain - they can’t express empathy past what they personally experience - and those people tend to be squarely trump voters. They’ll vote for bacon every day as pigs, and only realize their mistake afterwards.