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    K while everyone else at the adult table discusses things you can play with your imaginary options.

    Every country kills innocent people. It happens.

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      Every country kills innocent people. It happens.

      Thanks for admitting this.

      imaginary options.

      Not respecting a human world which purposefully kills the innocent is not ‘imaginary’.

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        Not even trying to minimize the amount of killing in the human world because it won’t reach 0 seems like you don’t actually care about human life at all.

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          That’s interesting. I have to support a party which supports killing innocent people to be against killing innocent people.

          Wow, humans sure are good at rationalising things in a nonsensical way. No wonder they’ve made such a fucked up world.

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            That’s not what I’m saying. You can absolutely continue to condemn and fight the democratic party on any topic you deem worthwhile.

            But putting that tiny mark on the ballot paper might ever so slightly get the world moving closer to the ideal you imagine, instead of veering away from it.

            That is the rationale I’m using here.

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            Voting doesn’t mean you support them.

            You aren’t giving them money, you aren’t campaigning for them. You are saying that between these two, admittedly fucked up, parties this is the one you think that will be better.

            So for the presidential election, vote to reduce harm - not to increase it.

            If you want to do better, support, fund, campaign for third parties down line. Local elections and build the momentum until they become a viable presidential candidate. Work to reform the electoral system that can dismantle the two party system.

            But don’t think voting for Harris is de facto supporting the Democratic party.

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              So for the presidential election, vote to reduce harm - not to increase it.

              Then give me a party which does not allow harm to be done to the innocent. I will gladly vote for them.

              Voting doesn’t mean you support them.

              Ah, so someone could vote for Trump, but then say “I didn’t vote for Trump because I support him.” Does that make sense to you?

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        Thanks. As I said to the commenter above. We are sitting at the adult table. Come join us once you realize everyone has blood on their hands and the world isn’t black and white.

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            Genocide is not a necessity, but it is an ongoing reality. The only feasible choices we as americans have at the present moment is Trump the genocide accelerationist, and Harris the genocide status quo and even reduction, ideally continuing the slow rolling supplies policy Biden has adopted and furthering that policy to slow the movement of weapons into israel. At the end of the day Netanyahu is the one actively waging genocide, and getting funding and weaponry from a wide number of countries. I would much prefer is we completely stopped sending weapons to Israel, but unfortunately thata not how internationally binding treaties work.

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        Where is yours?

        Oh, you aren’t sorry about the war crimes your government has accomplished?

        Typical.