• Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
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    Yeah us normal civilians can make a miniscule difference by doing these things

    But let’s not act like the problem isn’t billionaires like musk, swift, bezos etc and mega cooperations like nestle or even Boeing. They are the real problems. We will live to see the first trillionaire, yeah trillion. No one should have that much wealth. Eat the rich yo

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      We need information, math, data that distinguishes between:

      A) tragedy of the commons–you doing it yourself won’t make a difference, but everyone doing it will, so you doing it yourself makes a difference, and

      B) the change is so minuscule that even if everybody in the world did it, it still wouldn’t move the needle.

      Everything in B should be replaced with “clobber billionaires and coporations and governments”, but nothing from A gets misplaced in B.

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        I think its pretty obvious what “everyone” needs to do.

        1. buy less garbage
        2. eat healthier shit
        3. travel to places sustainably
        4. quit working for billionaires
        5. tear down our shitty institutions and rebuild our civilization from the ground up

        We all know that the corpos and governments are hellbent on apocalypse, we don’t have to support them

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      Mega corporations like nestle get their money from us normal civilians not caring about what we consumes impact on the environment.

      Like if you literally disbanded nestle over night, not even splitting them up or selling things off but somehow just got rid of them and all their product’s… does the negative impact on the environment go away? or do new companies grow to meet the unmet demand and all that’s changed is what company is providing cheap goods at the expense of the environment?

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        We can’t all afford to care. This is the huuuuuuuge problem with individual action. People living hand-to-mouth on an inadequate income – that’s most people – will buy the cheapest brand and of course they will. We can’t make them buy the “responsible” stuff just by shaming them. All it’s going to do is force them to justify themselves with “it’s all just green bullshit anyway”

        Systemic change is the only way. The only way.

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      Suggestion #1 (voting for candidates who support pro-environment legislation) results in the sweeping systemic changes that you’re looking for.

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        Yeah but then we get told that’s the wrong pro-environmental candidate and that we should pragmatic as we watch billionaires dig graves for us

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      Nestle and Boeing produces things that you consume. Bezos is a billionaire because of all the shit that you bought from him.

      If everyone refused to fly, Boeing would disappear in about 5 years and if they didn’t buy shit they don’t need, there wouldn’t be a fast fashion industry.

      You can turn it around as much as you want at the end it’s the behaviour of the masses that matters.

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        Those things we consume also involve a lot of political pocket lining, to look the other way when they need to do bad shit.

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        Awv sorry i hurt your swiftie feelings but she’s definitely doing her part in killing the earth.

        Her private jet spews more toxic emissions than you could ever dream of doing in 10 lifetimes. Take a seat child, the adults are speking .