I was just reading this post https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ and many barely see the fediverse as an alternative and they seem to have a negative bias towards it. Super ironic when it comes to the self-hosting community. Yes, some instances are problematic, yes, some devs might have had problematic views. But it doesn’t really matter when it’s federated and FOSS. I think it’s clear-cut that the selfhosting community on Lemmy is a perfect alternative to reddit. Why is there such a negative bias?

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyzEnglish
    18·
    18 days ago

    Besides other factors mentioned in this thread, there’s also

    • selection bias: people with a positive view of Lemmy already migrated, so the leftover is bound to have more negative views
    • older userbase: older people use language in a different way, talk about different topics, and dig into those topics in a different way. That often makes younger people throw a tantrum.
    • group identity: for those “AS A SNOO” we’re basically apostates.
    • edit: personal drama between higher ups is more visible here than in Reddit.
    • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
      8·
      18 days ago

      Older userbase makes this place a lot more useful, outside of politcs and news subs you are dealing with who can provide good information, ie how reddit used to work.

      Drama has its place… it is provocative and it gets people going… we need more engagement! We are deff getting there too, meme subs were spamming all 1 year ago, now there is enough threads to keep a reader busy without fluff memes.

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyzEnglish
        7·
        18 days ago

        I agree with you that both things have their upsides; and frankly, I don’t even think that we should be pandering to the immigration leftover wallowing in Reddit. Growth is good, but growth should never come at the expense of the community that you’re trying to grow.

        However I feel like those points help to explain why the “lol lmao” crowds hate this place.

          • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org
            1·
            17 days ago

            I would never support banish anyone, just to be clear. I know that sentiment is popular around here and reddit.

            Everyone within reason should be able to express themselves here that’s entire point of fediverse being the front page of the internet, a proper one!

            Younger folk do seem to self select out of place that won’t an echo chamber but that ain’t a young folk thing…

            Just check politics on lemmy.world 🤡

          • Lvxferre@mander.xyzEnglish
            1·
            17 days ago

            My concerns about the “immigration leftover” is not their opposing views, but their behaviour. I don’t want to deal with the “waaah the world revolves around my belly, why are you too stupid to understand that?” crowds and their incessant whining.

            • nanook@friendica.eskimo.com
              1·
              17 days ago

              @lvxferre Yes bad behaviors are on all sides, how do we reign in that human tendency towards self justification and aggression and get to the point where we can discuss or even argue if we must, facts and ideas, based upon their merits alone without so much emotional overtone?