• FlihpFlorp@lemm.eeEnglish
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    8 days ago

    Maybe it’s like helldivers where you beat the mission but failed to extract

    But that’s making think, are mission fails “canon” or does the Tenno beat every mission from the enemies perspective? Can a Tenno die? Warframes are extremely powerful so a loss would be bad? Are these questions answered in parts of the story I haven’t gotten to, probably

    • Halasham@dormi.zoneEnglish
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      8 days ago

      Yep, they’ve been answered but they’re answered in bits and pieces from around the game so having these as canonical answers might be annoying to get if you don’t review the lore often or have a mind that won’t let things go.

      <On Tenno Death (Chains of Harrow quest)>

      Tenno can and have died. We’re living… transhumans like the Orokin. Rell was a Tenno who didn’t go into the Second Dream and had to take extreme measures for his presence to be maintained from the Old War to the Chains of Harrow quest and post Chains of Harrow he is dead.

      <In Lore Failures of Tenno (Lore of Valkyr and Alad V)>

      The Tenno aren’t unstoppable in lore, Tenno have failed and Warframes have died. Valkyr is the way she is because she was captured and tortured by Alad V. Zanuka, both Hunter and normal, are allegedly made of Warframes.

      <Impact of Warframe Loss (Nonspecific Lore, minimal spoilers)>

      We don’t see a lot of info about this in lore, the aftermath of a Warframe death, but Warframes have been the defenders of various places that have gone on being places after the protector Warframe had died. It’s likely a major cultural impact and potentially major security threat but I don’t think it’s devastating for one to be lost.

      • Alonely0 🦀@mastodon.social
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        8 days ago

        @Halasham @FlihpFlorp Tenno are paracausal, i.e. they don’t have to obey cause-and-effect relationships, and therefore die when they get stabbed or whatever. The key is that they don’t have to, but they very well may, as elsewhere it’s puzzling how they’d interact with the world around them at all. Tenno may or may not die at any given time, but keep in mind that because they’re unified into a single superposition of all their alternate versions, their death is final regardless of eternalism.