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    Yet, Syria is still a viable state

    Damascus literally doesn’t have on-demand electricity, it experiences blackouts daily. More than half the people of Syria are food insecure. 6+ million people have been displaced in the last decade. The fuck you mean viable state?

    This conversation is just silly dude.

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      Are you claiming Syrian government is going to collapse in the foreseeable future, or you have some private definition of what a viable state is that you’d like to share with us here?

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        Yeah a viable state is capable of defending its borders, growing its economy, and developing quality of life for its citizens. Syria is failing on all 3 counts. Just because Assad can order people around doesn’t make Syria a viable state.

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          Last I checked Syria is in a much better situation today than it was when US started trying to destabilize it. The economic situation is improving, and US presence there is not long for this world. Meanwhile, Assad has more popular support than any western regime leaders. If we apply your metric to the US then it’s not a viable state either.

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            Last I checked Syria is in a much better situation today than it was when US started trying to destabilize it.

            Damascus today literally has blackouts daily. The US started fucking with Syria after 9/11. The Syrian energy grid was gravely damaged in 2011.

            The economic situation is improving

            Their GDP is not even hitting 2% growth by any realistic estimates, they’re not releasing accurate data anyway. Some years in 2020-2024 the estimate of GDP growth is negative.

            Assad has more popular support than any western regime leaders.

            I mean, you should go to Damascus and try to express dissent against Assad.

            This shit is silly dude.

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              Damascus today literally has blackouts daily. The US started fucking with Syria after 9/11. The Syrian energy grid was gravely damaged in 2011.

              You did not address the point I made which is that the situation has clearly improved. The fact that you can’t even acknowledge this basic fact is astounding. Syria was on the verge of collapse with US backed extremists marching on Damascus. Today, the government is firmly in control of most of the territory and economy is stabilizing.

              Their GDP is not even hitting 2% growth by any realistic estimates, they’re not releasing accurate data anyway. Some years in 2020-2024 the estimate of GDP growth is negative.

              Same goes for Germany and most of the EU, what’s your point here?

              Trump got 3x the votes of the population of Syria. Biden’s approval rating is 38.6%, the US VEP population is 253,272,570, some light math puts Biden’s approval at 97,763,212 people.

              What point are you even trying to make here?

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                You did not address the point I made which is that the situation has clearly improved.

                Yeah and you did not address the point I made which is the situation got gravely worse and is abjectly horrible

                 Same goes for Germany and most of the EU, what’s your point here?
                

                You love having a selective understanding of economics. Small underdeveloped economy, small percentage growth = very bad. Large global economy, small percentage growth = good. Remember how we were talking about global south markets in the other thread? What happened to all of that?

                What point are you even trying to make here?

                I was trying to make a joke, because attempting to qualify Assad support is the lulziest shit when he’s effectively an absolute monarch of a ruin.

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                  Yeah and you did not address the point I made which is the situation got gravely worse and is abjectly horrible

                  That’s not the point being debated here. You claimed that Syria is not a viable state, and so far you haven’t actually managed to defend that position.

                  You love having a selective understanding of economics.

                  I don’t have a selective understanding of economics. Large global economy that was built on having cheap energy is now in serious trouble because it was cut off from it. Anybody who has a clue about economics would understand how dire the situation is for Germany. Their competitors now have much cheaper input costs, and companies are closing down and laying off people left and right as a result.

                  In fact, the global south markets are a big part of the reason why Germany is in trouble right now. Chinese companies are eating their lunch all over the world.