Technically even the nordic nations have capitalism, they just have it straightjacketed/heavily regulated to benefit society. High taxes no one resents because they are educated to understand that everyone benefits from a society where everyone is educated to their potential and taken care of.
Allowing capital into governance as we did and do will always lead to the crony market capitalist economy capturing, straightjacketing, and exploiting society for private profit.
Campaigns should have always had public funding, with attempting to bribe, oh I’m sorry, “donate to” elected officials being treated with the same severity as first degree murder considering you want to change society to benefit only yourself.
Yes some countries do the equivalent of using a screwdriver to hold the demon core apart but that doesn’t mean that the natural forces at play aren’t extremely destructive.
I’m on your side, and believe society should assist its people from those most in need. I’m a democratic socialist, and would be open to communism if automated resource gathering like robotic agriculture became sufficiently of age.
That said, the Nordic models are the easiest sell to eventually get there, as there is hard data that they are the happiest societies on Earth reliably by a mile.
If you can’t sell the the idea that the point of a society is to maximize the wellbeing of its citizens, and the Nordic countries objectively do it best of all existing models going by the data, then there is just no reasoning our way out of our own self-imposed extinction.
There really isn’t a more powerful argument I’ve encountered with concrete data to get others to realize that “the free market” isn’t their friend and regulation and taxation is if you’re a regular member of a society that doesn’t have aspirations of global economic conquest.
You want to be happy? You want your neighbors to also be happy? You want your kids to be happy? You don’t like living around tons of miserable homeless people and want them to be happy and housed rather than dying in front of your apartment complex? Nordic model let’s fucking go.
Idealistically I’m an anarchist, but practically I agree with you too. If we reach that point everywhere I’ll keep pushing, or if the revolution is coming I’ll jump ship, but for all intents and purposes we’re close allies :)
Technically even the nordic nations have capitalism, they just have it straightjacketed/heavily regulated to benefit society. High taxes no one resents because they are educated to understand that everyone benefits from a society where everyone is educated to their potential and taken care of.
Allowing capital into governance as we did and do will always lead to the crony market capitalist economy capturing, straightjacketing, and exploiting society for private profit.
Campaigns should have always had public funding, with attempting to bribe, oh I’m sorry, “donate to” elected officials being treated with the same severity as first degree murder considering you want to change society to benefit only yourself.
But that ship has sailed.
Yes some countries do the equivalent of using a screwdriver to hold the demon core apart but that doesn’t mean that the natural forces at play aren’t extremely destructive.
Everyone’s arm gets tired eventually.
I’m on your side, and believe society should assist its people from those most in need. I’m a democratic socialist, and would be open to communism if automated resource gathering like robotic agriculture became sufficiently of age.
That said, the Nordic models are the easiest sell to eventually get there, as there is hard data that they are the happiest societies on Earth reliably by a mile.
If you can’t sell the the idea that the point of a society is to maximize the wellbeing of its citizens, and the Nordic countries objectively do it best of all existing models going by the data, then there is just no reasoning our way out of our own self-imposed extinction.
There really isn’t a more powerful argument I’ve encountered with concrete data to get others to realize that “the free market” isn’t their friend and regulation and taxation is if you’re a regular member of a society that doesn’t have aspirations of global economic conquest.
You want to be happy? You want your neighbors to also be happy? You want your kids to be happy? You don’t like living around tons of miserable homeless people and want them to be happy and housed rather than dying in front of your apartment complex? Nordic model let’s fucking go.
Idealistically I’m an anarchist, but practically I agree with you too. If we reach that point everywhere I’ll keep pushing, or if the revolution is coming I’ll jump ship, but for all intents and purposes we’re close allies :)