• st3ph3n@midwest.social
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    10 days ago

    My fucking Trumpy brother in law has this attitude. He lives in the south, votes for Trump, and has a wife, two daughters, and a son. His wife has had a couple of complicated pregnancies that, had they happened now in the place they currently live, could well have resulted in her death. His attitude when asked ‘what if one of your daughters gets raped?’ is to say he can just fly her somewhere else to get an abortion, because he has money. Fuck you, dude.

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      These are people who don’t want rights, they want privileges. They don’t want equality, they want hierarchy. They can’t say “gimme gimme”, they say “take America back”.

      From who? Americans. They want to take what you have. Now that Republicans control the Federal Government they will start to take from each other.

      This literally happened during the first Trump administration. Does no Trump supporter remember how they all fought for attention and sucked so badly?

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        I remember the hilarious part where they all campaigned for years on “repealing Obamacare”. Then they had House and Senate majorities + the Presidency, and guess what didn’t get repealed?

        It was like that silly video where a dog is barking viciously at another dog, looks super serious and mean, and then the barrier between them is removed and they both act real cool immediately. Then, barrier back in, vicious barking again…

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          2016 - It will be so easy, it’s the worst law in history. We’re going to repeal and replace it in the first week.

          2024 - I have concepts of a plan.

          How fucking dumb is half the country… At least that fucking dumb.

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          I remember the hilarious part where they all campaigned for years on “repealing Obamacare”. Then they had House and Senate majorities + the Presidency, and guess what didn’t get repealed?

          For a while, there were a surprising amount of people who wanted to repeal Obamacare, but keep the Affordable Care Act.

          Letting it be called Obamacare was probably a misstep for his administration. It’d likely be less disliked if it wasn’t tied to his name, and they went with something like “Americare: Because America Cares for you”.

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            Republicans are the ones that nicknamed it that, to try to make their supporters hate it as much as a Black man, even if it hurts them.

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              Worked pretty great. Of course part of the ratfucking they did was to cripple the actual legislation, too, not just the image of it, so it doesn’t work nearly as well as it should.

              So now they have to vote in Congress to keep a thing people need but which they themselves made much crappier, while also being expected to scream about wanting to get rid of it altogether, while also being unable to make any useful changes to the legislation at all. And this is on healthcare, probably the most directly impactful issue faced by their actual voter base.

              Messaging and propaganda are seriously like game-breaking IRL exploits.

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            I hear you, but their messaging was going to be their messaging, and it was going to be effective and adopted by their base. No one “let it be called Obamacare”, that was strictly Republican, and very deliberate. There was never a point when the GOP was gonna just allow a massive popular win by the other side, they were always gonna ratfuck it every way possible, do everything they could to make it unpopular.

            Associating it with scary brown guy was pretty much inevitable, I can’t put even a piece of the blame on the folks who fought for that legislation to be passed.

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        There’s a reason they’re so threatened by words like equity and inclusion. When the culture of your ancestors was based on exclusionary hierarchies it can be very hard to embrace all people as equal, even if that is a fabled part of the American ethos (on paper, not in practice).

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      Yeah, if you can get a MAGAt to be honest with you, at some point, the core of what they want comes down to, “I support Trump because I want people who are different than me to have more misery in their life than I do.”

      If that means taking on some extra misery themselves, be so be it, as long as it’s even worse for them.

      It’s a sad type of cruelty.