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Seriously why? Discuss.online has horrible moderation and open-signups, and Lemm.ee isn’t very much better. If lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works were completely nuked to avoid the moderation headache or risks from two large open servers, why aren’t lemm.ee and discuss.online banned as well?

  • Lime Buzz@beehaw.orgEnglish
    5·
    3 days ago

    Whilst we’re discussing instances to defederate from, I’d really love to see lemmynsfw defederated from, like a lot of porn things there’s an underlying current of misogyny (and other bad stuff) coming from it and it bothers me and since this instance cannot upgrade I keep having to play whack-a-mole with each new community I come across in the All tab since I can’t just block the entire instance (yet).

    Edit: Plus for a ‘nice’ community, it doesn’t make much sense to keep such an instance around ioo. It would be different if there was an underlying current of respect for the subjects there but that doesn’t seem to be the case, just seems to be a mix and match for whatever people’s tastes are and since we live in a patriarchal society a lot of it is going to be bad.

    • apotheotic (she/her)@beehaw.orgEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      I’m somewhat surprised to hear we aren’t defederated from them already - I don’t see any of their posts. I guess I have my settings in such a way as to not get nsfw posts

      • Lime Buzz@beehaw.orgEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        Last I checked we weren’t. I see their stuff pop up in All, a few times though it’s not frequent now I have blocked most of the ones thst have popped up.

        I don’t have ‘NSFW’ posts blocked, just blurred because unfortunately that term is used poorly and kind of scattershot on lemmy whereas on mastodon, content warnings are more nuanced here ‘NSFW’ is used for more things than just lewd unfortunately.

        I dislike that it’s not at all nuanced and there’s no real content warnings and ‘spoilers’ don’t work in every app but hey, suppose I can go request those things be added or fixed I guess.

    • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙@lemm.eeOP
      4·
      4 days ago

      I second that one, lemmynsfw is something else entirely. Not just that it’s porn but porn instances attract less savory people, especially bots and OF promoters (which are almost the same thing) so probably would be a good idea to axe them for instance health.

      • Lime Buzz@beehaw.orgEnglish
        3·
        3 days ago

        Well, there is a problem with porn currently in general in that we live in a patriarchal & misogynistic society so the kind of porn that is created often reflects that, objectifying women (and perhaps other genders in different ways).

        I don’t see lemmynsfw being a solution to this whatsoever from what I’ve seen.

        So yes whilst porn itself could technically be respectful and create something better, give better examples, it doesn’t.

        I do not see the problem necessarily with promoting OF etc as sex workers do have to make money and that is their job, however the less savory people who are attracted by the types of porn I listed above do often have problematic views, so agree with you there.

        • 𝕯𝖎𝖕𝖘𝖍𝖎𝖙@lemm.eeOP
          2·
          3 days ago

          I do not see the problem necessarily with promoting OF etc as sex workers do have to make money and that is their job, however the less savory people who are attracted by the types of porn I listed above do often have problematic views, so agree with you there.

          It would be no different than allowing people to post ads here on Lemmy for Pepsi, Liberty Mutual, and HeGetsUs. If someone made ad accounts to post that shit you’d ban them as an admin, why is OF spam any different to you?

      • Lime Buzz@beehaw.orgEnglish
        9·
        4 days ago

        Yep, but this instance plans to move off of lemmy and onto sublinks so they cannot upgrade to >=19 as it’ll break a lot of their backend stuff.