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PugJesus@kbin.social to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.world · 2 years ago

Know your genocide apologists

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Know your genocide apologists

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PugJesus@kbin.social to NonCredibleDefense@lemmy.world · 2 years ago
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    Communists shouldn’t defend the Russian Federation. Yet for inexplicable reasons, many self-proclaimed communists online do so. Typically they’re tankies with all sorts of other problematic opinions.

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      I have literally never seen it.

      I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, but it doesn’t happen in the places I frequent - and I frequent a LOT of Leftist communities.

      Edit: People are pointing to the Tankies Lemmy community. The place designed for tankies. I’m not arguing they don’t exist. I’m aruing against the people saying they’re all over the place and pervasive in other communities and that they’re not a commonality and not the usual communist/socialist.

      Pointing to the Tankies communities doesn’t change anything I’ve said.

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        I have literally never seen it.

        I have no clue how that’s possible considering how the Ukraine war has caused their apologia to crawl out of the woodwork.

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            Okay? But the people we’re talking about think Ukraine should be invaded by Russia.

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                Take a trip to Lemmygrad, Hexbear, or Lemmy.ml sometime - or put a pro-Ukraine post somewhere in the Fediverse and let them come to you.

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        I’m an unabashed leftist who has been active in leftist spaces online since “leftist spaces online” meant particular groups on usenet and I see Russia apologists masquerading as socialists almost every day

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            https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1254216

            This whole thread is basically just tankies frothing over military aid sent to Ukraine and me of course having the dumbest discussion of ny life. Just an example but they are simply insane or stupid, or just insanely stupid.

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            Is lem.ee not federated with lemmygrad.ml? They’re right here my guy you don’t have to search hard.

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        It’s rampant in certain ML communities. A lot of people are so caught up in their reasonable opposition to the US, it’s foreign policy and the military industrial complex that they start to see any US enemy in a positive light, despite many of those enemies being significantly worse.

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          Which communities. Someone else pointed to that same community - and I looked at a post and saw nothing but support for Ukraine.

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            https://apnews.com/article/ukraine-russia-invasion-biden-congress-funding-d392f9b1adbb9c44249dce1cccdc2d1e?taid=64d50aa9364c310001c6d04e.

            Have a look through here

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              What do you want me to see here?

              I think you meant to link a Lemmy post - but accidentally posted the article from the Lemmy post instead of the comments themselves.

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                You are right, I’m sorry. Here’s what I meant to share: https://lemm.ee/post/3842553

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                  What specifically in that thread are you talking about?

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      Well American conservatives also defend Russia, that doesn’t mean they’re communists

      So stop associating things

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        I think you’re a little confused. I never claimed all Russian supporters were communists, or vice-versa for that matter.

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          At least soviet gulags were just concentration camps, not extermination camps.

          The left spectrum is the best one :P

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            I mean, I don’t disagree. I consider myself left-of-centre and the Soviets a lesser evil compared to the Nazis, or even the Tsars they replaced.

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        Go back up to the image and see the one labeled “Hard Right.” You’re welcome.

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