Hong Kong: A decade of protest is now a defiant memory
www.bbc.com
The BBC speaks to Hongkongers whose hopes for a freer city have withered.
  • Nakoichi [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    38·
    7 months ago

    Oh you mean all the fascist Trump fans that rioted over the fact a rich guy that murdered his girlfriend was gonna be extradited?

    Yeah people should probably be reminded about why that even happened.

    Literally a bunch of reactionary shit heads pleading for the return of western colonial rule. Those losers can keep crying about it fuck em.

  • Jumi@lemmy.world
    9·
    7 months ago

    Nowadays it seems unlikely for revolutions or rebellions to achieve anything. The surveillance and control apparatuses are almost always too strong and sophisticated to be overthrown.

    • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      10·
      7 months ago

      “Your comment […] was removed. Reason: Rule 6.”

      How is it off-topic to point out that the Hong Kong ‘’‘protesters’‘’ were a gaggle of CIA-backed stooges supported by literal fascist mercenaries from the Empire’s other imperial project?

      • SleafordMod@feddit.ukEnglish
        1·
        24 days ago

        Do you have evidence to support the idea that pro-democracy protestors in Hong Kong were “CIA-backed stooges”? Maybe they were just ordinary citizens who wanted to live in a democratic society?

        • CascadeOfLight [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          2·
          24 days ago

          Bruh; I posted this six months ago, how did you even find it? Did you scroll my entire comment history until you could find a single thing to concern-troll at?

          Anyway, the “”“Hong Kong protests”“” were started in response to a security bill that would make it easier to extradite criminals back to the mainland, as there were several loopholes in the way mainland and Hong Kong criminal codes lined up that needed to be closed. The incident that made it clear this was necessary, was a criminal who murdered and dismembered his pregnant girlfriend, fled to Hong Kong and then couldn’t be returned home to face trial.

          So, keeping that guy from facing justice was the context in which everything else has to be considered. The “”“protests”“” were deeply unpopular among the majority of the residents of Hong Kong. The protesters themselves, as well as being frequently racist against mainlanders, displayed an extreme nostalgia for the British control of Hong Kong, waving UK flags and writing their protest signs in English (the most obvious tell that a “”“protest”“” is actually for the benefit of foreign audiences rather than being an organic movement of local people). It’s important to note that under British rule… there was no democracy. Afterwards, a lot of “”“protesters”“” “”“fled”“” to the UK, where a large number of them now live in destitution due to the UK’s atrocious cost of living and the fact they’re no longer useful imperial puppets.

          In the first three days of the George Floyd uprisings, US police arrested more people than HK police had in six months. By the end of the first week US police had also killed more people (directly involved in the protests that is, on average daily US police murders would constitute a civil war in any other country) than had died during the HK protests, three in total: one protester who fell off a rooftop, one old man who was a street-sweeper that got hit in the head with a brick thrown by a protester, and one mainlander businessman who was doused in gasoline and set on fire by protesters.

          Also in attendance, unaccountably, were various Ukrainian neonazis who, for some reason, were super invested in these astroturfed protests about a highly specific local legal matter.

          Here’s some bozo from the Azov battalion, the most vicious of the neonazi paramilitaries, posing in Hong Kong (and him again later, after he was partially denazified while persecuting Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas region). Sending in Ukrainian fascist mercenaries is usually a good sign that the imperial intelligence apparatus is involved.

          Lastly, not only do the Chinese people feel (correctly) that their political system is more democratic than the people of the UK think theirs is, they also think democracy is more important than the population of the UK does

          So maybe take this into account when your white chauvinistic ass starts spouting regurgitated bullshit about what other people around the world, people your empire subjugated, really want.

          • SleafordMod@feddit.ukEnglish
            1·
            23 days ago

            The “”“protests”“” were deeply unpopular among the majority of the residents of Hong Kong

            I don’t think I ever read that when I read about the topic. Perhaps it could be true, but it could also not be true.

            writing their protest signs in English (the most obvious tell that a “”“protest”“” is actually for the benefit of foreign audiences rather than being an organic movement of local people)

            Just because they want to get the attention of English speakers, I don’t think that means it’s not an “organic movement of local people”. In Spain there are anti-tourism protests and they write “tourists go home” in English, because they want English speakers to receive the message. That doesn’t mean the protests are organised by some shadowy English speaking cabal, rather than Spaniards themselves.

            In the first three days of the George Floyd uprisings, US police arrested more people than HK police had in six months.

            Okay… I didn’t mention the US though and I don’t believe the US is a perfect country. I just think it’s plausible that some people in China (whether in Hong Kong or on the mainland) want to live in a democracy. Maybe not all of them want a democracy. But some may well do.

            persecuting Russian-speaking Ukrainians in the Donbas region

            Is this true? I know that Russia has alleged that Ukraine did such things. Maybe there are some Ukrainians who have done such things. Russia suggests that the Ukrainian state is responsible for such persecution though, and I haven’t come across anything suggesting the truth of that.

            your white chauvinistic ass

            You don’t know what my ethnicity is. You’re obviously upset about the UK for whatever reason, but that doesn’t automatically mean that your views are correct or moral. All you’re showing is that you’re very emotional.