Nothing more disappointing to me than seeing a game I might enjoy… and then it’s only available on PC on Epic Games store. Why can’t it be available on Epic, Xbox game store and Steam? It’s so annoying, like you have no choice but to use Epic… which I would literally do ANYTHING not to use.

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      This makes actual sense tho since it’s DRM free. Never understood the epic is evil but steam somehow is good. Both are DRM shills

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        Long story short, there were two main issues that people had with Epic:

        • they made exclusivity a thing inside pc platform (this was the main issue for most people)
        • Tim Sweeney is generally disliked

        The first issue speaks for itself. The second needs a bit more context.

        Tim Sweeney has an history of being arbitrary. One year he says one thing, the next another. Relevant to this case, Tim was openly against PC gaming back in the day, while Valve was pushing for PC gaming. We’re talking around 2010, where console gaming was predominant, most publisher favored consoles against PC. Valve at the time was one of the few companies betting on the PC platform.

        Now, he’s suddenly pro PC gaming. People see this as him doing a 180, and trying to take the spoils from Valve’s work.

        Then there were also some comments that he made that aged like milk, but generally speaking this is why people take an issue with Epic but not Steam

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        I mostly take issue with the paid exclusivity deals from Epic. That kind of thing can stay on consoles. I also don’t trust Tim Sweeney or Tencent, and I feel that they’re kind of openly hostile to consumers.

        I don’t care for intrusive DRM, but it’s clearly marked which games have it on Steam and which don’t. I won’t buy anything that requires a second account or has Denuvo. I don’t do online matchmaking games anymore, but if I did, I’d also avoid anything with kernel-level anti-cheat. I don’t really mind Steamworks DRM, though. It’s not intrusive and Steam is useful enough that I normally have it running in the background anyway.

        I also like buying on Steam because they’re contributing so much to Linux gaming and FOSS, even if Steam itself isn’t FOSS. It’s because of them that I can have a Windows-free household without any significant compromises.

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          That kind of thing can stay on consoles.

          I understand console exclusives. The hardware is different, it takes extra time and money to be compatible with multiple systems.

          Epic exclusives is just “fuck you you have to buy from me because I threw some money around to say so.”

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        Well I can only speak for myself, but I prefer games stores in that order:

        1. GOG, because DRM free and they don’t enforce game updates.
        2. Steam, because they are well integrated into the SteamDeck, they push Linux gaming, and Gabe seems to be an alright guy.
        3. Itch.io, because lots of indy games
        4. Epic Game store, good: free games, bad: Epic and Tim Sweeney.

        There are business decisions with all of them that I dislike.

        For the top dog PC game store, Valve could behave much much worse. Epic is still in the customer and game developer acquisition phase (and still behave like a d*ck with their exclusive deals), if the ever manage to push Valve aside, I believe they will be much worse.

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      I haven’t tried GOG but their business model seems awesome. Do their games work on Linux / Mac?

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        Lutris is a game launcher for Linux that can install games from your GOG, Epic, and Steam accounts. I believe it even supports Proton which is a compatibility layer to run Windows games on Linux (which is a Valve project that is based on Wine).

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        Depends on the game developers, if they offer/upload a Linux/Mac version. On Linux, you have to either install/update your games manually, or use a third-party client. Idk about Mac. Third party clients can also integrate Wine for Windows games.