I said something along the lines of:

“Wow, I haven’t had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while.”

Along with

“Nah, the more dead corpos dragons, the better.”

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

…

Good ole’ civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

  • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
    5·
    21 days ago

    links

    https://lemmy.world/post/22802422 has been deleted.

    https://mander.xyz/post/21552536 is hard to interpret as praising violence IMO - no explanation is given why the pigeon (a typically passive animal) is burning the house.

    https://midwest.social/post/20083880) is mostly people cheering on the current events. It does praise violence, but at the same time it acknowledges that CEO as a source of suffering for people.

    I do think that mob mentality plays a role, but I don’t think that it’s the main factor here. People (not just you all in USA, but everywhere) are getting pissed; the ones in power always babbling that things will get better, and yet we don’t see it.

    Perhaps you can write a post to the mods or even admins of that instance asking for such, though it would probably be better to wait a week for this all to die down - perhaps the mod in question will apologize, or even be removed, though what you may want instead (but don’t let me put words into your mouth) is a clarification to be made to the wording of the community or instance rules. We really can affect the changes that we’d like to see, much of the time. And if/when not, then at least you know that you did your absolute best to try:-).

    I think that the issue is mostly on an admin level, not on a mod level. And based on previous interactions with one of those admins… seriously, I’ll pass - at least that one was a bit too eager to distort things to their convenience.

    Plus you know, I’m awful at writing this sort of thing down - I write a full wall of text for what would need two lines.

    • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
      2·
      21 days ago

      They have their moderation style, you would do differently, and regardless of right or wrong the goal is to match moderation activities to the community desires. But that probably will require additional volunteers to really get off the ground, so that’s perhaps something that you could do? Ofc I cannot speak to your condition wrt your life status right now, I just hoped to point to whatever I could to help you realize that you are not powerless nor alone in wanting a sense of justice to be enacted - the trick being whose justice, especially when dealing with global cross-cultural values.

      Wherever we go forward from here, it will require effort. And making that list is a good start:-).

      • Lvxferre@mander.xyz
        2·
        21 days ago

        I think that it’s less about different styles (like being laxer/stricter, sticking more/less to the letter of the rules, etc.) and more about bringing bad habits from Reddit. In Reddit neither your typical non-mod user nor your typical mod gives a damn about the rules - one expects to be able to go rogue unpunished and then punished for something random, while another wants a bullshit reason to get that feeling of power over the others. (Note that I’m talking on typical grounds. There were plenty decent = exceptional mods there, too.)

        And, when I say that one of the admins was too eager to distort things to their convenience, I wasn’t even referring to my interactions with them as an admin, but just as another user. From Canvas 2025 times [I can give you further context if you want.]

        I do know that it’ll require effort and a collective one, and I think that we [users in general] should work in that direction. I just think that I’m the wrong person for this specific job, I’m probably better at gathering info - like the lists.

        • OpenStars@discuss.onlineEnglish
          2·
          20 days ago

          I am trying to break things down into their component parts.

          First, your lists are absolutely helpful, for many reasons even those unrelated to this incident, but for helping the Fediverse become less decentralized overall - so thank you for them:-).

          Second, I have mostly avoided thinking about the actual admins yet bc I haven’t heard anything from them directly yet - though indirectly from the mod in question I did hear that the admins plan to modify the ToS to increase its transparency in relation to such things. It does valid to me that they need to worry about the police 🚨 knocking on their door 🚓, hence panicked a bit when they all that stuff. It’s also hard to figure some of that stuff out bc even if Lemmy.World is in - I don’t even know where, Germany? UK? France? somewhere in the EU I would suppose - if the USA feds were to ask them to remove it or else face some troubles, what kind of pressure would that place upon them?

          Third, the actions of the actual mod in question have given me strong hope for the livelihood of the Fediverse in general - she apologized immediately, rescinded the bans, offered an explanation, and also her reasoning besides, and explained what she should have done and promised will do in the future instead.

          I offered more depth on these matters in a recent reply to this comment from Blaze.