• kristina [she/her]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    wild to read about this whole thing. he wrote a whole screed about how white people need to have around 2 kids each and then he goes and kills a white mother of two

    fascism really is the stupidest ideology

  • axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    A lot of these murderers openly admit how gullible and susceptible they are. It’s the same story with Qanon reactionaries too. They always tell a story that’s like “yeah i never really paid attention to politics or the news but then one day I saw a meme that broke my brain.”

    Yes, that’s all it takes to radicalize them because they live their entire lives coasting on the basic assumptions of white supremacist imperialism without question and it destroys their mind to learn their ideology is in fact a particular ideology that can be put into words. It’s completely gibberish racist drivel, but it snaps their worldview into focus like they’ve never understood because they’ve literally never thought about it before. The racist gullible nonsense was already bubbling in their heads.

    • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago

      HEY. Some of us learned about communism through memes and had a similar experience tyvm. You put some respect on memes!

      But the difference in ideological miasma people are steeped in leading to fascist bullshit and communism is clearly huge and I find your insight valuable for sure. I find that leftists are generally the most empathetic people who drive themselves crazy trying to make sense of how needlessly cruel our world is without a proper critique of it, so it’s a process of trying to ask a question they don’t have the words for that leads to their revelationary moment when they finally encounter leftist theory (even if that’s in the form of memes). That’s a remarkably different process than the fascist light bulb turning on as someone has their entirely unconscious and unquestioned ideology put into language for the first time, even if the subjective feeling of revelation is probably similar.

  • Ecoleo [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    3 years ago

    How did this dude take himself seriously when he wrote he was educated by “infographics, shitposts, and memes” on 4chan?

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          3 years ago

          Earlier today I had a discussion on here where I linked to an anthropological research paper from 1985. On 4klan they just hurl racial slurs at each other and post “infographics” where they drew stars of david in MS paint over the entire CNN board of directors.

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    3 years ago

    I went to 4chan during the Michael Brown protests and let me tell you. I saw the fucking heart of darkness. I saw the absolute irredeemable soul of misanthropy on full display. I was doing it to keep tabs of their bullshit but it got so depressing I just couldn’t do it anymore.

    • ScotPilgrimVsTheLibs [they/them]@hexbear.net
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      3 years ago

      Kinda funny how we’re the ones with the ideology that actually challenges the state and we just…don’t commit crimes.

      We never see any of us going into, say, Harrison Arkansas and attacking people. Yet we’re the ones routinely demonized on the more popular, democratized media. We’re always the bad guys and these shooters are always painted as the good guys, if not the REAL victims.

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        And the furthest you could stretch leftist violence would be groups like Red Army Faction, who very specifically targeted capitalists, cops, NATO commanders, et al (and the people who protected them).