I didn’t mean for this post to cause a bunch of arguing in the comments =(

I thought this was just some gallows humor (e.g. “Everything’s lovely except that I have to fear for my safety all the time”) type of shitpost that sounded similar to comments I’ve heard from women irl a lot.

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    My problem is going up to men and proclaiming “men might kill me” and expecting that to go over well. Like let me just walk up to someone transgender and exclaim “transgender people might rape my children.” That is objectively such a horrific thing to say. But no one cares when you say it about men. Because a man obviously will actually kill you 🙄

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      Are you mad at trans people when they say they aren’t going to be safe in a men’s bathroom? Because they won’t be. I Don’t know why it’s the man part of the statement that you are so upset by. I’m also a man. I’m not hurt by this entirely justified fear that women have.

      AGAIN. You are attacking women for fearing men, because they aren’t being sensitive enough to men while expressing fear for their life. This isn’t about men’s feelings. It’s about the women’s feelings. It’s OK to express entirely justified fears.

      I’ve been a person who’s had to help document stalking, to help get restraining orders, to put policy in place to prevent men targeting young women. This is a part of running any open to the public business where women work, or frequent. You have to know this as a matter of business management that when a worker or shopper says ‘‘I don’t know this man following or talking to me, and I’m getting scared’’ that you need to take it seriously, and also be aware your two steps behind. It shouldn’t get to that point.

      You have to notice when a guy comes in twice to talk to the same cashier, you have to pull them off the floor everytime he comes back, and if he asks once about that staff member, you HAVE to start paperwork. That’s the crucial point. That’s where if you do nothing, someone can get hurt or killed.

      THAT EARLY is when you need to have paperwork, offical trespassing complaints, restraining orders, that’s when you need to know that man has been pushed back enough to pull his head out of his ass and realize the high school or college age girl at a shirt folding store isn’t going to fall in love with him, and some pressure to let him know, you’ve already been caught, you can’t get away with it, you’ll never get away with it.

      Women deal with this EVERY SINGLE DAY they go out into public alone. I had to learn this. I had no idea it was this bad, I childishly thought cat calling was a thing that only happened in like three different streets in NYC or Boston. Not so. There’s guys with a wife and kids in his 40s driving to work in my small town who will roll down their window and scream obscene things at high school kids they think are hot walking to school.

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        No I’m not. I’m just saying I feel alienated when the term men is used as a substitute for murderer. I think you should read my original comment again.

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      How many examples are there of trans people raping children?

      How many examples of men raping women are there?

      I’m a male and I’m not getting wounding up about this. Grow up.

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        24 hours ago

        At least one of each. Both are ridiculous statements drawn up by the delusional to push an agenda. You are getting wound up about me defending men due to a ridiculous statement in the same way I am getting wound up about a ridiculous statement that “others” men.

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      Men, statistically, actually might kill you. Transgender people, statistically, aren’t going to rape your kids. You’re including yourself when women talk about negative experiences from men when you don’t have to. Again, men ≠ all men including you.

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        Statistically you won’t be killed by a man for walking alone at night. Just as statistically your kids won’t be raped by a transgender person. For some reason you are okay with the former though not the later. You are okay with this because you don’t care about men. Those people are less to you. I don’t like that. I think it’s wrong.

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          Statistically, the number of transgender people who are going to rape your kids is fuckin’ none. The chances of you being murdered at night are slim but a lot less slim, enough so that everyone (but especially women as they’re often the targets of sexual violence) have to have to take it into consideration, and the ones doing it are almost entirely men. It becomes even less slim and downright common if you substitute murder with any other violence-based verb.

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              I didn’t say they’re not capable of rape, I’m saying it’s statistically “fuckin’ none” (i should have said extremely improbable i suppose, but do I really need to explain hyperbolic language to you next?) that they’re going to rape your kids, unlike the infinitely more likely chance of men engaging in sexual violence toward women. Posting a single example of one transgender person committing rape does not negate that, and you have no reason to assert I don’t believe transgender people are people. What the fuck is wrong with you?

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                23 hours ago

                Yeah can you explain hyperbolic language to me please. Does it have something to do with hypertension? I know what that is after talking to you. XD

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                  Hyperbole is exaggeration used for emphasis. When I say “fuckin’ none” I don’t mean literally zero, I mean an amount so indescribably tiny that it’s negligible. I hope that clears things up for you.