• ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 days ago

    It’s both, and you need to zoom out and see the big picture, the one where they coexist because one necessitates the other, to really appreciate the problem

    (ID: aerial photos from South Africa and India showing the vast disparity between rich and poor existing directly next to each other)

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      Those are pictures of the way the world has always been. It’s just now, in the last few decades, that we’ve had the global wealth to turn it around.

      Pick your own graph if you don’t like this one. There are hundreds more showing the same massive decline in poverty.

      The reduction in poverty has been stunning in my lifetime (born 1971). I’ve seen shit in America that literally has no comparison in modern times. But I’m sure some 20-yo will come along and tell me it’s a hellscape out there. LOL, should have seen black people in 1977 Louisiana.

      I know two things; I’ve studied history, though I’m more ignorant than I wish. And I’ve lived history. Not sure how fast y’all expect times to change, but times are changing faster than at any other point in our civilizations.

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        Most poverty reduction this century has been in China. Poverty levels flatten out if you exclude them from the data.

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          It’s interesting to point that out because China is still is capitalistic. Just more state capitalism?
          Ya know, I would love to read a book on China on this topic. Like how what have they done to get where they are.

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        And just like how the dismantlement of mercantilism in favor of capitalism did the world a lot of good, it also had an insane number of flaws that make it very stupid long term.

        It is time for the dismantlement of capitalism in favor of socialism

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        Black people in Lousianna having it better than they did in 1971 is certainly a response to wealth disparity.

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          Point to the part where I said we no longer had massive issues. As to wealth disparity, which I didn’t mention, I never thought it could happen in America.

          Had a teacher in 80’s middle school telling us how corrupt things had become in Mexico because 20% of the population held 80% of the wealth. We were horrified. Yeah. Can we get that in America?

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            It seems Lemmy has already transformed into a place where people come to be right, instead of a place to learn.

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        Find a poor person and show them how much better it is for people now than it was. Go ahead.

        Oh I just noticed your Gen X… That makes sense.