cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/32492690
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Dragon Rider (drag) being banned from the following communities for sharing DMs:
I’m not surprised that all this stuff came out. Drag had a very similar pattern of behavior to past trolls.
Just in case anyone wasn’t aware, Drag created a community on two occasions called Fuck Draconic NEO with multiple posts telling that user to kill themselves and questioning their gender identity.
They were recently on yepowertripping pretending to be an ally, just an awful person.
edit: Sorry, it seems like I completely misread your message. Yeah that’s pretty damning if true.
Original message below.
When I was looking into it, and if I recall correctly, one of such occasions involved telling someone to, if they were going to throw their life away, they might as do something meaningful in their death. Not entirely sure what it was. Still big yikes, but that changed context reads slightly differently. And I could see how someone neurodivergent could say that not having ill intent. This was also something that drag apologized for. (And everyone makes mistakes and learns.)
The other occasions / accusation I don’t know anything about. But I would employ people to not just believe everything they see said about people, and for others to be ready to back up their claim with sources, such that we don’t have to live in uncertainty about what someone has or hasn’t done. And usually, if someone hasn’t been banned, then I trust moderation when they come to the conclusion that a ban wasn’t warranted.
Oh what I’m referring to was nothing like that. Drag was straight up telling the user to kill themselves and such. There was no room for misunderstanding.
I don’t have screenshots unfortunately and now the community/user is gone.
@Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com might be able to provide proof (if you’re comfortable doing this of course Draconic, no pressure)
Absolutely. Here are screenshots of the email notifications I received, as well as some of the disgusting DMs they sent me (I censored it):
Horrible messages and mentions by drag's harassment alt
Context: Original post was asking admins to give out my IP address so drag could hunt me down and kill me.This is all from the first time.
Here’s also one of the DMs they spammed me recently:
More DM harassment
Yes I censored this one as well.
For what it’s worth, I hope it’s come across clearly that nobody who has zero tolerance towards misgendering is OK with this kind of behavior from Drag. I’m sorry you’ve been harassed like that.
That’s fucking disgusting, with the cyberflashing and name calling. Jesus Christ.
Yeah it’s really gross. They are legitimately a disgusting and evil person.
Drag does come across as a troll for sure, I’ve just never seen this awfulness from drag. Pretty sickening. Thats the nudge I needed to block drag.
Drags pronouns arent trolling, but drag has done nothing but troll
Boy, there’s not a whole lot I would like to read less than people giving their opinions on trans furries who use neopronouns. People get just a little too excited about having found the ‘right kind’ of trans person to invalidate, and think that Drag being a troll somehow proves something about neopronouns or nonbinary people.
I’m just gonna keep saying the same thing I’ve been saying since the first post about this: you don’t have to interact with everyone. If you think someone’s pronouns are trolling then report them, block them, and move on with your life.
Society if .world users understood this
I love how for some reason they interpret “I specifically would not like to read this” as “DEBATE ME! DEBATE ME NOW!!” 🥲
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I’ve read and joined a couple of discussions about this and in one of them, it turned out the people complaining about this ““pronoun issue”” were just bigots under the hood. I hope you’re not one of them.
In the end, Blåhaj Lemmy’s rules are to respect pronouns, no exceptions. You’re posting in a Blåhaj community thread. This is just to inform you that if you want to continue to not be potentially banned instance-wide, you might want to not go through with your “threat” of not using someone’s preferred pronouns.
Replace drag with a lesbian trans woman and suddenly the same argument of “not wanting to consent to playing into someone’s kink” becomes INCREDIBLY problematic. This is of course not what you’re doing. But in the end, it doesn’t matter what someone identifies with or what their supposed kink is because of their choice of name. Judge what they’re saying and doing, not who they are.
I didn’t make any threats, I’m not sure where that came from.
If I’m banned for standing up for consent, then that’s a ban I’ll wear with pride.
There is a difference between gender and sexual preferences, so I’m not sure why you’re equating this with “lesbian trans women.” I have never met a lesbian that insisted I refer to her as “womanfucker.” That would be absurd and gross.
That would be absurd and gross.
But, hypothetically, if a trans woman were to call herself that, would you then misgender her?
Not referring to someone by their sexual appetites is not misgendering, period. Sexual attraction and gender are two separate things, I’m not sure when this became controversial. The very premise of your question is invalid.
That implies that you have absolute, undeniable proof of drag’s “sexual appetites”, and in extension that calling drag by drag’s preferred pronouns is somehow playing into their sexual fantasies, otherwise your appeal to consent doesn’t really matter. Do you have such proof?
I do! The profile explains it! Unless it has been changed, the profile explicitly states this. Drangonfucker is a version of dragon rider, one who has sex with dragons and that’s why the pronoun drag is chosen. All according to the profile!
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Using neopronouns isn’t doing that. Being a weird furry isn’t doing that. Bad behavior doesn’t do that either, and trans people who are shithead trolls still don’t deserve to be misgendered.
Any trans person who thinks kicking the “cringe” trans people while we’re all down will buy them five minutes off the chopping block is at best a rube.
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I haven’t misunderstood anything, and will not be accepting feedback on it. Blahaj has a hardline “respect pronouns always” stance, and I invite anyone that has a problem with that in the current political climate to sit on it and spin. The pronouns were never the problem.
right.
what is point of post? drag broke instance rules so got banned from instance. this feels offtopic meow
seconded mrow
It seems drag was banned from the site for sharing people’s DMs, though I’m sure that’s not the whole story, drag has a history of being banned for way more than just the thing on the label. Looking at the comments on drag’s home instance where it hasn’t been removed, it seems drag was sharing those DMs in attempt to libel Ada for not taking the action drag wanted. That’s on top of the fact that she did not give drag permission to share them. It’s an asshole move for sure, and I have to say if I were in Ada’s shoes I’d do the same.
wow if only @moss@lemmy.blahaj.zone was banned for leaking my DMs
Ada probably won’t ban Moss for anything, since she probably doesn’t want to make it seem like she’s ‘taking control’ of 196 against her (Moss’) will. She’s in a difficult position because people want the current 196 mods to quit squatting and give us the community, but she doesn’t want to seem controlling. Which I don’t agree with, the purpose of being an instance admin is to have control over the whole instance and to interfere with communities when it’s best for the whole instance at large.
image description “for Brits”? what?
I think the image wasn’t loading properly on the UK instance
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trucy is wondering why in the OOP it says
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found it
