I fled Reddit due to the authoritarian mod craziness, but Lemmy.world seems infested with too much Communist craziness. I’m leftist, but communism is idiocy. Is there an instance that leans more democratic socialist but refrains from going off the deep end?

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    9 hours ago

    I’m also looking for a place without edgy or crazy people.

    For me its:

    Democratic: yes

    Socialism/social net/sharing/helping: yes

    Dictatorial: no

    Tankie: no

    Undemocratic: no

    China or CCCP/URSS worship: no

    Soviet whitewashing: no

    That’s about it.

    Edit: I was looking for a community not an instance (I have my own but I still uses .world as I had some trouble, time to migrate back home I guess :-) ) but thanks for all helpful comments!

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      I think thats valid. You don’t have to accept or look at everything.

      Do you mind sharing what your ideal society looks like? I think a lot of folks share common ideas but have vastly different labels for them.

      I’ll go ahead:

      I personally want to work. It can be fun. I want to do things I’m actually good at. I want to be able to afford food and housing. I want to know that i wont starve if I become sick or disabled. I want to be able to survive when I’m too old to work regularly. I want my family to be safe no matter what.

      I think those are pretty understandable goals. I want to live in a world where this applies to as many people as possible.

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        9 hours ago

        Yeah we all have to work (or contribute to society by our possible means) that’s a given I think.

        No ultra rich people (but you need to dream, so no communist pay either). UBI that covers basic food & housing. Art and science as the goal of society (after taking care of everyone).

        The problem is what to do with all egomaniacs, is there enough benevolent people or will nobody become a dentist if you don’t need to work (that much)? I mean lots of people get up in the morning and spends their whole life working, because of some crazy angry people (don’t believe me? Go work in some big companies). How do we re-train those people, how do we keep an army? Lots and lots of open ended questions here.

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          See! I fully agree on the social aspects of your ideals. I would like to give my opinion on your points. Please read them as ideas, not a form of diminishing your thoughts.

          Yeah we all have to work (or contribute to society by our possible means) that’s a given I think.

          Actually, i dont think we do. We produce a lot more than we need (food for 10 billion people) and a lot of crap that only fuels consumerism. Not saying there is an alternative yet but maybe we can agree on “some people definitely need to work for us to survive and thrive.”

          No ultra rich people

          Fully agree

          (but you need to dream, so no communist pay either).

          But do we? Or is it just a concept we use to keep the current situation going? Would we not dream if we just had the same?

          UBI that covers basic food & housing. Art and science as the goal of society (after taking care of everyone).

          100% agree

          The problem is what to do with all egomaniacs, is there enough benevolent people or will nobody become a dentist if you don’t need to work (that much)?

          would you rather do an easier job that one you have passion and skills for if they were paid the same? I agree that moving trash or working in the sewers should potentially be paid extra. I think currently, education being expensive, doctors are kept scarce. Make it free and watch.

          I mean lots of people get up in the morning and spends their whole life working, because of some crazy angry people (don’t believe me? Go work in some big companies).

          I have. Huge companies are cancer. Nothing more.

          How do we re-train those people, how do we keep an army? Lots and lots of open ended questions here

          from the bottom up, as always. We vote as left as possible (those who still can). We demand UBI, free education, free public transport, fair taxes, free healthcare, etc. We build communities (currently underway) to subvert oppressive systems with mutual support groups, etc.

          Again, this is just my personal opinion so please disagree wildly if you wish. Just try to stay constructive.

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      many instances, like mine, are ‘generic on-ramps’. their ‘main’ purpose is to provide unfettered access to all other instances.

      in this way you curate your own feeds by subscribing to what you want.

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        9 hours ago

        db0 is a really cool person. Has the piracy sub there too :-)

        Sopuli is very pro Ukrainian. Cool good finnish guy it seems.