What hardware do you use for Nextcloud?
I’m willing to finally get my own cloud using #Nextcloud but I have zero clue about which hardware I should choose for home storage. It would be used for domestic stuff, such as photos, music, movies and files, for the whole family, not necessarily for work
I’m running Nextcloud as a VM on Proxmox, Proxmox running on a NUC6i5SYH, with 32GB and 1TB SSD. The Nextcloud VM had 8GB of RAM assigned, which is more than enough, I think I could get away with 4. There’s only two users though, so it doesn’t see a lot of Intensive usage.
It’s been working like a charm for me for years already.
Pi5 8GB with SSD. Only 1 user but often sharing folders with others including Memories photo sharing add on. Syncs between several machines & mobile. Also syncs Joplin notes. Pi5 also hosts variety of other (lightweight) stuff with no issues at all (Portainer, Nginx Proxy Manager, Linkwarden etc).
Previously hosted on Pi4B (4GB) with external hard drive. I’ve found the Pi5 + SSD faster & more robust so for me it’s been a worthwhile upgrade
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We have a Raspberry Pi 4, and its performance is totally sufficient for photo uploads, file sync, contacts, calendar, cookbook, notes, … Don’t use just the SD card, though, but an SSD.Did you do the nextcloudpi install?
Cant answer for them, but if you use dietpi they have use the debian package set up with scripts to pull dependencies like a webserver and database automatically. It was very painless in my experience.
Same here. Works well.
I use a relatively low spec KVM VPS on another continent. Remember, kids, if all your backups are in one location, you don’t have backups. You have copies.
I used a RaspberryPi 4B for about 3 years. I connected storage over USB-3 to a pair of SATA SSDs. It handled everything pretty much flawlessly for two users and half a dozen devices. We even had multiple users on Plex. dietpi was brilliant for my first home server :).
Initial uploads may be slow depending on your storage layout but in my experience the requirements are super low.
I have nextcloudAIO running on a VM with 6 vcpu, 16gb ram. No issues with performance.
The root partition is on an nvme drive, the data partition is on a HDD raid 1 array.
That VM is hosting another few services like nginx proxy manager, Heimdall, and a few other things I forget at the moment.
Never have any issues with performance
I am using it on an Intel J5005 with SATA SSDs, managed through Docker. Works flawlessly.
If I were to upgrade, I would choose a board with a modern PCIe 4.0 M.2 Slot, because i’d like to put the database on fast NVME storage.
I just bought a used Intel N100 mini pc with 16gb RAM and 2tb SSD for a little more than I would have paid for a Raspberry Pi 5 setup. It doesn’t draw much more power than a RPi, and I’m not limited to what’s available for ARM if I want to expand the install at some point.
before you take the jump, consider a way lighter and easier alternative - syncthing (files) and radicale (calendar, contacts). dependable, bullet-proof, super-lightweight, zero issues - everything nextcloud isn’t.
I was the happiest when I finally booted nextcloud off my network, never to return.
I do regularly have issues with radicale, for years now. One is that it does not work properly after boot. I have to SSH in, kill the radicale process, and restart it.
docker?
No docker. Plain executable.
zero problems with docker, maybe try that.
You need this for your family, and not hundreds of people? No crazy, outlandish usage requirements?
Then basically any PC will do.
I’ve got a small Enterprise customer running on a Dell r710, 2gb ram to the slightly custom docker image for nc, 4gb+ for the woods sit, the other 14gb to KVM to run a windows application.
I run the AIO master container, on a NUC (4-core i5, 32G). Family use; never any load issues.
Nextcloud sucks. Its better to have discreet docker services running for what you actually need vs nextcloud being a monolith of shitty plugins. As for hardware, go on eBay and buy a cheap optiplex tower. It’ll get you started.
I know it’s unpopular, but I’m starting to agree with you. I set up NextCloud, but I honestly don’t use much of any of it. The only part I really want is the file sync and handling, as well as LibreOffice in the cloud. I don’t care about the calendar, contacts sync, video chat, etc. I looked through the plugins, and the ones I tried kind of sucked. I also really don’t like PHP and the Docker image is all wrong, so it’s more of a pain than anything to deal with.
So I’m trying out Seafile. I didn’t realize it supports Collabora CODE, so I’m going to check that out. My main hangup is the directory structure, so I’ll figure out the FUSE FS thing and see if that’ll work well enough for me.
I literally just want to be able to send stuff from our machines, view/edit them online quickly, and send the important stuff to an offline backup.
Who knows, maybe I’ll like it, and maybe I’ll come back to NextCloud. Either way, I highly recommend people try out alternatives, because there really are a lot of cool projects out there.
People are down voting me because they’ve pledged their soul to the monolith of shitty plugins.
Even if you want all the pieces there’s way better versions of them than what you get in nextcloud. Also depending on how many devices you need libreoffice on, might be easier just to run a syncthings instance and sync the files that way. Its what I’m doing for obsidian and its awesome.
Alternatively theres also this but I can’t vouch for it as I haven’t set it up yet
My main use case here is using it on my phone. I used to use Google Sheets a lot on my phone, and I want to replicate that without Google. LibreOffice Online works through NextCloud, but I really don’t need the extra features, so I’m going to get it set up through Seafile.
I also may want to share a sheet or something with someone else so we can both edit it, but that’s not a hard requirement.
Lemme know how seafile works for you. I’m going to be replacing google cloud myself soon
I switched from nextcloud to seafile. Their app has paid file search for android app. Also full text search is paid. The docker also seems to crash a lot.
I’ve been testing owncloud ocis and it works really well. Just trying to figure out a few things for single sign on, but the app otherwise works really well.
I had some trouble getting ocis going, and it’s all overly complicated for my simple home setup, especially the file storage. What I wanted from OCIS was basically a file server, integration w/ Collabora CODE, and no messing w/ web servers (just a reverse proxy). But it seems to want to be a lot more than that.
I haven’t had time to play with Seafile much, but there are already some things I don’t like:
- no more SQLite support - removed in v11 I think?
- no Postgres support, only MariaDB/MySQL
- split w/ community edition and pro edition or whatever
- not a huge dev community - maybe 5 active-ish devs? If that? And there are some old PRs w/ no action from the dev team.
But some things I do like:
- FUSE layer - should make backups easy; also seems to have S3 compatibility, so maybe I won’t need FUSE
- clients for automatically backing up various devices, including for Linux
- simple UX
So I guess we’ll see how I like it. If it works well, I may end up contributing, or maybe I’ll try porting to something I like more (I do a bit of Rust as a hobby, and this could be a fun project).
I have a raspberry pi 4 with
- A Uninterrupted Power Supply
- External powered HDD for the data drive
My NextCloud is running on an old desktop that’s been repurposed into a server. The server is running Proxmox, and NC is running in docker directly on Proxmox using the nextcloud-aio image.
Found that had better performance than running it in a VM and was less headaches than the other install options.
I keep thinking about moving it to dedicated hardware, say some sort of mini pc, but it hasn’t been a high priority for me.
I do this but in a docker VM. Then I can snapshot and back it up. I haven’t noticed any performance disadvantage since it’s running as a KVM guest, so it’s pretty much the same are running on bare metal.
When I was first playing with NC I was using a RPi3 with an external SSD for a drive. Performance was pretty good, but as soon as I tried the same setup in a VM, the performance tanked. The only way I found to avoid the performance penalty was a manual install like it was bare metal, which I didn’t really want to do. My experience with such setups is that they tend to be brittle.
My understanding was that the performance penalty was caused by the chain of VMs. Proxmox --> Ubuntu VM --> Docker. I don’t know enough about it to say for sure.
Yah, I don’t think a Pi3 is the place to make many determinations on the efficacy of VMs vs bare metal.
