• jjjalljs@ttrpg.network
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    This guy is going to be responsible for a lot of suffering and death.

    If he was visited by a plumber, and I was on the jury, I would nullify.

  • TheGoddessAnoia@lemmy.ca
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    Yeah. Sure. Measles can actually destroy the immune system so that it forgets not only that you have had measles, but everything else you’ve developed an immunity to (it’s called immune amnesia) by having the disease or having a vaccine, and face getting the whole mob again. Or, you could be the 1 or 2 people in 1000 who will die, or the 1 in 1000 who will get encephalitis and live, albeit significantly intellectually and physically disabled. Or you could get subacute sclerosing panencephalitis ten years after you had measles, and that’s almost always fatal.

    Makes getting shingles after having chicken pox as a kid seem like a wlak in the part, mmm?

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        Because they mostly have no clue that measles is a potentially fatal illness, with potential severe lifelong complications including some which require 24/7/365 full nursing care.

        They think of it as a mild rash with mild flu-y symptoms for a week or two.

        They also have no idea it is so very contagious.

        So though the measles vaccine has an amazing safety & efficacy record, whether singly or as part of the combined MMR, with endless research turfing up no link to autism whatsoever, and carrying only a negligible risk of vaccine injury (none as severe as the complications of measles), those who reject it do so not only out of totally false beliefs about the vaccine, but also out of fully wild misconceptions about the risk of measles.

        Though now the anti-vaxx movement has become such a big thing for a while, they’re all egging each other on with the help of ideological pundits. This combines to create a group highly distrustful of public health organisations and all medical advice on the matter, who are much more resistant to accepting correct information than their vaccine-shy counterparts ever were in the past. It also seems to be true that scary conspiracy theories are comforting to them in a world where serious infections can just catch a person, where autism isn’t something one can simply opt out of - they want simple answers, and everything which debunks that simple wilful ignorance is a threat to their sense of security.

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      Measles is (I believe) the most contagious virus we have ever encountered. It can remain for 2 hours after an infected person leaves an area.

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        Yes, but every sensible person would likely be vaccinated*. Antivaxxers often get away with being unvaccinated just because of sheer dumb luck (they don’t get infected). A mass (self-)infection event could quickly rectify that situation.

        • Everybody with immuno deficiency would probably have to stay indoors for a couple of months, but all things considered I’d say that’d be a small price to pay if it means millions of antivaxxers and Trump supporters get to see the error of their ways or outright kill themselves.
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          I mean… we effectively did just that with covid, and the results were not great…

          Immunodeficient people still need to buy groceries…

  • Bullshit. I actually did apparently have a bad reaction to the MMR vaccine when I was a kid, so I’m not sure if I still have immunity from measles. I would really prefer not risking it, you know? Anti-vaxxers are idiots.

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    How about just he gets it? Hell he should get all the diseases. Think of how dead strong his immune system will be!

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        Yup, and he also vaccinated his children as soon as they were old enough to qualify. He wants his voters dumb, trapped, and desperate, not his family.