https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671
What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?
https://gizmodo.com/google-s-pixel-8-sim-slot-esim-only-iphone-1850759671
What happened to daring to be different? What happened to having options? What happened to creativity?
Maybe I’m out of the loop but are eSIMs insecure or something? What’s the problem? I started using eSIMs while traveling overseas and it been a game changer. So easy… No more swapping. No more trying to find a Sim provider at the airport etc.
AFAIK esim is not available everywhere and it’s also less private since you need to register an account to activate rather than pay cash and pop in the card.
Yes eSIM adoption is low, but half the world requires you to register either way. The main concern is the friction (sometimes inability) with swapping eSIM’s between phones. They are great and convenient but they should never be the only option.
In the eu you have to register your regular sim card with your full personal information. So for us nothing would change.
South Africa too. We call it RICA
Iirc the US also started requiring it, too.
What I like about physical Sims is I can easily swap it between different devices without need to login into a website or app to transfer it over.
Is esim that convient when it comes to swapping the same sim between different devices?
Stringer Bell over here with your SIM card shenanigans.
i’d say it’s a toss up really: personally i’d prefer logging into an account rather than having to find/carry something to pop open the sim tray, but i can see why some people would prefer that option
If you’re someone who needs to swap SIM cards just keep the tool between the phone’s backside and its case. If you don’t have a case on your phone then… The fuck you doing playing with fire like that bruh?
No need to waste money on a phone case if you smash your phone or throw it in a river every time you make a call. You don’t want the feds to catch up with you, right?
Seeing some of the crowd around here I wouldn’t be surprised if and of them only use burner phones…
I keep it on my keys. You need those to get into your house/apartment/vehicle anyways.
that’s very fair!
i don’t actually have keys - everything is phone or watch, but i’m definitely an outlier!
Understandable.
I’d say it’s pretty handy if you don’t have an ejector pin on you. Don’t have to take the phone out of the case either
Well with e-sims you just sign in on a new phone and you’re done. I much prefer that to having to have a physical sim card. With a physical sim card if you lose your phone you’re shit out of luck until you can get a replacement sim, which could take days.
If I lose a phone that’s a big issue that doesn’t even have to do with a sim.
Anyways, how easy is it to swap an esim to a phone when all you have is the two phones (one with active esim and other no service) at hand with no wifi available?
With physical I just pop it out and in, but what’s the process for esim swapping in that scenario?
Create a wifi hotspot.
Sure, but you might have another old phone you can use, or can go to the shops to buy a new one before you can get a new sim card.
My inquiry isn’t sim or phone replacement. It’s how well does esim replicate the swapping process between devices that physical Sims do.
And all phones these days have esim capabilities. So this more how good enough is esim to do without physical sim card as phones will copy the Apple removing trend again.
They are a privacy problem.
What are those privacy problems?
I guess there’s the fact that you cannot anonymously purchase an eSIM.
Anything else?
That’s a big one. It introduces a privacy concern that traditional SIMs dont have, and if all phones use eSIM, there will be no alternative.
As with many things tech, it’s a slippery slope, and short-term convenience leads to long-term detriment. But if you don’t care about privacy, then yes, enjoy the convenience of an eSIM.
doesn’t most the world require registering for a regular sim anyway?
Yeah, I don’t understand where people are getting a SIM card nowadays without an ID or verification.
is there much privacy in attaching your main phone to a new sim?
Agreed, except that it can still be more difficult to get an eSIM than a physical SIM in some parts of the world. It depends on where you are traveling.
That probably won’t be an issue in the next couple of years.