I have used SearXNG for a while, but I switched to LibreX after the search engine started glitching. Recently, though, LibreX has stopped returning any results. I am currently on Mojeek, but the results aren’t that great.

I have also tried Qwant, but I wasn’t too keen on it. Startpage will be impractical, as I use a VPN and this engine often blocks me because of it. I don’t want to use Brave Search for a number of reasons. MetaGer has too many important features behind its paywall. I’m not sure about DuckDuckGo, but I could use it if there was no other option.

Any suggestions, or am I being too picky?

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    Why are people so against DDG here? Just wondering because I use it and think it’s fine

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      I’m not sure this is really a solvable problem but at the end of the day, DuckDuckGo is a for profit corporation. Privacy is more of a marketing angle than something they actually care about. Last year they allowed Microsoft to track mobile users of their “privacy focused” browser which is obviously against their stated purpose for existing. They backtracked after facing backlash but it’s done lasting damage to their reputation. They also got caught by a security researcher, they weren’t at all upfront about it. I think that’s enough to shatter any hope that they are genuine or trustworthy.

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      I’m here because I’m trying to figure out why dog is giving me curated location based results instead of the actual results, even though I have my region set to all regions.

      So I’m not recommending them because their product has gotten worse.e

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      I think they got bought out by Microsoft or something, so naturally people are weary of it now.

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        They use bing results but they most certainly weren’t bought by Microsoft. They have a deal with Microsoft to use their results without tracking. At least to my knowledge. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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          They had been contractually obligated to allow certain MS ad cookies/trackers as part of a big money deal, but I believe they were able to get those requirements removed and it’s actually zero trackers now.

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        Not that it is a deal-breaker, but this functionality is also built into Chromium browsers if you right click the address bar and select ‘manage search engines’

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      Been a happy Kagi user for 6+ months now. No more Pinterest and other blogspam in my searches

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      Aren’t they fundamentally anti privacy? You have to be logged in so they can correlate literally everything you search for or click on with a credit card number and real name…

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        They ask a bit of trust on that, but their FAQ also has an appeal to reason:

        I have privacy concerns over linking my search queries with my credit card. Why should I trust you?

        We do not log search queries. Queries you type are never associated with your account. The simple reason is we don’t have any reason to do so, as it would only be a liability for us. We are in the business of selling search results, not user data.

        (For the record, I use Kagi)

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          That’s asking for a hell of a lot of trust in them… wouldn’t be the first, or last, time companies lie about these things.

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        Yeah. I don’t think something that requires payment is inherently private. Even when paying for a service with something like Monero, you are still required to log into an account to use it.

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      It stopped returning results. I tried other instances: same problems. However, I think the issue may have been fixed.

      I am currently on an iPhone, and I’m not really in a position to self-host (although I did try to set up a FreedomBox the other day).

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        Ah fair enough.

        I started by having it on my laptop, and used it only there. Liked it so much that I’m renting a VPS around $5 a month to have it on all my devices.

        But to be fair, I’m also hosting other things on that VPS (SearXNG is very light), so it’s multi-purpose.

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            I recommend Oracle Cloud Always Free - 4 Arm cores, 24GB RAM, 200GB storage. I’ve used it before they sanctioned Russia and it worked fine (but if hardware fails your data will stay but you will be at the bottom of the queue for replacement)

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            Went with linode since it was reasonably priced and popular. But might move if something better comes along.

            I have all the server setup done with ansible, so it’s super easy to reproduce everything in a new machine.

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      I used it for a while but could not find good results for any kind of advanced query. Qwant in comparison is slightly better but still worse than duckduckgo unfortunately. For really niche stuff I still need to revert to Google…

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        You can get both qwant, duckduckgo, and Google with SearXNG, unless the instance you used had a config to not have them as an option…

        That’s why I just prefer to use my own.

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    Can you tell us why Qwant wasn’t a good choice for you? I heard they work hard on respecting privacy while providing good results… So I am curious about your experience

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      The engine occasionally throws up a “Sorry, we’ve detected unusual traffic from your IP address” and then I have to type in my query again after solving the captcha. They’re also based in France, which is bringing in anti-encryption laws and suchlike, so (unless I’m an idiot, which is not unlikely) the risk of something compromising Qwant is rising a bit.

      On top of that, it’s the only privacy-respecting search engine not to achieve an A grade on ToS;DR.

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    I use a self hosted instance of Whoogle. It threw up an error a few days back. Got stuck in Google captcha(probably an IP issue). Now it has reset and it is smooth sailing.

    Yeah, it is simply Google results, but I think it’s fine…

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    some here won’t like the idea of a premium, private search engine but Kagi is one of the best tech discoveries I’ve made in a long time. I pay $5/month for 300 searches and always seem to hit the limit at the very end of my month, never payed the 1.5 cents per search after that.

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        You can sign up for a trial with 100 searches.

        As for what is good, searches tend to pull up relevant info that is not buried under a bunch of seo shit. You can block, downgrade, and upgrade domains (I have blocked Pinterest from all my search results for instance). It’s just a very good experience. And long term I feel more confident in their user experience since their profit motivation is not tied to serving you up ads.

        My biggest complaint is the 300 searches a month seems a little low.

        But give the 100 free searches a shot. I have been very happy with them.