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    Learned about Lemmy from Reddit but never heard of kbin until recently. That said, I like the name Lemmy a lot more than the name kbin. kbin sounds like a hex editor for KDE, not a Reddit alternative. I love the open source community, but sometimes the names of projects leave much to be desired. Lemmy isn’t the perfect name but it’s more memorable than kbin.

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      Speaking about names. What the hell is a “magazine”?? It’s like the kbin devs went out of their way to ensure they named everything to be as confusing to outsiders as possible.

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        Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.

        Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.

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            Nothing wrong with community, the point is Lemmy create the term the same as Kbin created magazine. Not every microblogging site in the fediverse calls them “toots” for example.

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              Yeah but community does a good job of explaining what it is conceptually with a word everyone understands, while being “vendor neutral” as it were.

              “magazine” tells me fuck all, I’m not even certain what it’s supposed to be.

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      Really? Kbin as the name is what intrigued me initially over Lemmy. It’s actually inspired by Linux, the sbin directory to be specific.

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      I’ll agree that calling communities “magazines” is weird.

      The word reminds me of outdated (and overpriced) print periodicals or ammo holders. They may as well call them 8-tracks or cassettes. Maybe the word will evolve. “Sub” took on it’s own meaning after Reddit.

      “Fetch” still isn’t happening, so we’ll see.

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      Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has as much if not more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.

      Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there are many more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world tests PHP can very often be faster then any less-than-mature-Rust codebase.

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      Not for me. I know PHP and not Rust, so if I want to go somewhere that I have a chance of contributing to, that narrows it down.

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        Fair enough.

        I suppose there is something nice about a low barrier-to-entry codebase, but I’d be weary of getting inundated with low quality PRs and spend all my time on code reviews. Maybe that’s unrealistic, but I haven’t seen that nearly as often outside of Python and JS projects

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    I liked both but ultimately joined Lemmy over kbin because it seems like there’s more interest in building mobile apps for Lemmy. (Currently using Jerboa) Also like that my Lemmy instance is based on renewable energy which is nice.

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    I’m torn as well. I find it easier to navigate Lemmy but Kbin’s interface feels much more polished.

    As someone who wants to self-host an instance, which would you guys recommend? I’ve been reading through the documentation for both and Lemmy seems easier to install. Does anyone have experience with both? I’m interested to know how well they scale in terms of performance.

    edit: And to add, I’m not a fan of kbin’s “microblog” and “magazine” is a strange word for “community”.

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    Lemmy is the first one I heard about, and that’s where I made my account. Kbin is also a much newer project, so I’m less confident that it’ll be around in the mid-to-long term future than lemmy.world, and I’d rather not have to make a new account.

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    I’m in both, but I’m a Reddit refugee looking for a similar experience. 99% of my Reddit’s time was through the RIF app and Jeroba looks and feels the same, so currently I only use lemmy.

    I wouldn’t mind switching over to kbin if it gets better in the future since I can read everything from anywhere.

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      Same for me. Pure laziness.

      I already put in a lot of time to figure this out, I need to rest for a bit before I jump into kbin.

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      I want to use Kbin much more, as it looks hella nicer, but I can’t find any button to collapse comments and the reply thread field is on the very bottom of a post… so yeah, that’s annoying lol

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      @jerome I tried making one (so I can test out apps when they start coming out in case they don’t support my preference, kbin) and I was having that issue all day. I finally made one about an hour ago, just keep trying… I think they’re having a hard time handling the traffic atm.

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    People started talking about the reddit API change and named lemmy as an alternative. So that’s the one I checked out. Didn’t here of kbin til I was already here.

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      Think of it like Lemmy but with a different UI plus the ability to “tweet” on mastodon. I’m commenting from kbin right now, we can all see the same posts because it’s federated.