As simple as possible to summarize the best way you can, first, please. Feel free to expand after, or just say whatever you want lol. Honest question.

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    I just did using the transcendental argument. God is the necessary precondition for universals such as logic and reason. They exist therefore God exists and these universal metaphysics are a reflection of his divine mind.

    What is the epistemic justification for your world view? Make sure not to use universals or subjective experience because the former is in question and the latter is arbitrary.

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      1 day ago

      You didn’t prove it, you made another claim that you have to prove.

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          23 hours ago

          Emperical evidence.

          It needs to be testable and reproducible.

          There’s no evidence that souls and spirits even exist.

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              21 hours ago

              They’re testable and reproducible.

              Any number of mathematicians can work a problem, and if done correctly will reach the same result.

              The same goes for logic.

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                  16 hours ago

                  So you can’t use the bible to prove god exists, eh?

                  Math is just our understanding of how the universe works. Logic is just our description of how to correctly reason.

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                    14 hours ago

                    I’m not using the Bible. I’m using the Transcendental Argument.

                    Math is just our understanding of how the universe works. Logic is just our description of how to correctly reason.

                    Okay. If these things are just descriptors then they aren’t universally true. If they exist and are universally true then you have no account for how that is the case. Either way you are using immaterial, metaphysical concepts to make the case that things that are immaterial and metaphysical don’t exist.