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Screenshot of a tumblr post by hbmmaster:

the framing of generative ai as “theft” in popular discourse has really set us back so far like not only should we not consider copyright infringement theft we shouldn’t even consider generative ai copyright infringement

who do you think benefits from redefining “theft” to include “making something indirectly derivative of something created by someone else”? because I can assure you it’s not artists

okay I’m going to mute this post, I’ll just say,

if your gut reaction to this is that you think this is a pro-ai post, that you think “not theft” means “not bad”, I want you to think very carefully about what exactly “theft” is to you and what it is about ai that you consider “stealing”.

do you also consider other derivative works to be “stealing”? (fanfiction, youtube poops, gifsets) if not, why not? what’s the difference? because if the difference is actually just “well it’s fine when a person does it” then you really should try to find a better way to articulate the problems you have with ai than just saying it’s “stealing from artists”.

I dislike ai too, I’m probably on your side. I just want people to stop shooting themselves in the foot by making anti-ai arguments that have broader anti-art implications. I believe in you. you can come up with a better argument than just calling it “theft”.

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    3 days ago

    I agree with the comment here that AI image generation is more like piracy in that you are appropriating other artists’ works without their permission.

    So I mean personally I agree that AI art is soulless and possibly copyright infringement but not theft, whereas for people that consider piracy theft, calling AI art “theft” is not an inconsistent or hypocritical argument, in my opinion. Machine or human doesn’t make it stealing or not.

    I mean even Zuck’s Meta is claiming in court that they aren’t stealing books when torrenting massive amounts of them for AI training, lol, so he’s consistent there. But Nintendo on the other hand are probably seething at AI Nintendo art being “stolen” from them.