Not like wore an underwear for 2 days. I mean the absolute most disgusting thing you’ve ever done that would make most people say wtf

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    Hmmm

    I think I have a good one, though it didn’t bother me much, and anyone in the same line of work has done similar, so it isn’t as big a deal to us.

    But!

    Back around the turn of the century, I had a patient that developed a pressure sore on his hip.

    This sore broke down fast, and wasn’t responding to treatment well. So it progressed brutally. It then got infected.

    By the time all was done and said, the wound was about four inches around, and tunneled from the hip socket down the femur about halfway.

    Despite being freshly discharged and on oral antibiotics, the IV antibiotics hadn’t eradicated all of the infection, they just got it under control enough to continue treatment at home.

    Enter the wound-vac. Basically, it’s a pump that sucks wounds and makes them heal faster. Amazing fucking devices, totally changed wound care. But I digress.

    Part of the way a wound vac works is packing the wound with fancy sponge material. Otherwise, it’d just suck the wound’ sides in and that ain’t good.

    Every morning, I’d take the container full of blood and pus to empty it and clean it. Then I’d get busy pulling out the old packing materials, also covered in blood and pus, plus chunky bits. Then I’d irrigate with saline, followed by using pads to pull most of that back out. So, about a half hour of dealing with body fluids that smelled exactly as bad as you’d think infected body fluids would smell.

    Then came the fun part! Fifteen minutes of packing the wound.

    Now, during all of that process, im wrist deep in this man’s leg. Guess how far gloves go up the arm. We did eventually get longer ones, but guess who has two thumbs and hands that tear regular sized gloves apart.

    Exactly, 👍 this guy 👍

    So, my choices amounted to refusing to do the job, which was not happening because that ain’t how I roll; using the shorter gloves while the wound shrank, and just taping them up as best I could to keep human juices out of the gloves (or, rather, to a lesser degree), or wear the long gloves and hope they didn’t pop while I was in there.

    Truth be told, I had better sensitivity with the popped gloves since that amounted to not wearing any at all, so I probably should have just gone that route, but that’s whatever. I went with regular gloves and tape.

    So, every day, by the end of the process, I’d have to pull off gloves that had sweat, blood, and pus in them. Not as much as I’d have had if I went in bare handed, or had a glove break, but enough.

    Then I’d scrub my hands for the third time of the morning and think hard about my life choices while drying them.

    It may help the description to realize that I can palm a basketball (if I’m careful), or could before arthritis. And, my usual glove size is xxl. So when that hand is in someone up to the wrist with room to spare, you know it’s a party!

    I tell this story in person sometimes. I include the sounds of my hand schlucking in the wound. Psshhhsslllccck going in, and thhpppthck coming out. I have seen people almost pass out, have had one person vomit, and many leave the area with haste. It may or may not be the most disgusting thing anyone has ever done, I’m confident it isn’t. But as stories go, it hits hard in person, with all the sounds and hand movements.

    Now, old wound care stories abound, but most of them weren’t disgusting on my end. I’d see disgusting things, and do stuff that was disgusting to see if you were standing there, but I’d be gloved up and clean the entire time. Like, if you’ve never seen anyone cutting necrotic tissue out of someone’s body from a wound that covers essentially their entire ass down to the bone, well, you don’t want to see that. It didn’t bother me at that point, but it was definitely disgusting by usual standards. But I find it more sad than disgusting what with the reason it was that bad. She was slowly dying, and her body just couldn’t recover, so she was rotting away. That’s some fucked up shit, and is one of hundreds of reasons I will always advocate for the right to death via assisted euthanasia.

    Hell, I’ve seen nastier wounds than either of those. Infected burns are horrifying to see. But I’ve also had to clean diarrhea out of wounds, including that specific one on the lady with only half an ass left. Which, on the scale of things is pretty disgusting, but it was also possible to get the job done without getting anything on me. Well, other than trauma lol. That lol isn’t making light of it. It’s whistling in the dark.

    I tell you though, once you’ve handled a few infected wounds, you either adapt to it and do it clinically distant, or you run screaming and never come back. Luckily, I came into this world with a strong stomach, a pervasive curiosity about medical matters, and a stubbornness about retreating from challenges. So it was always easy to turn off the “yuck switch” and just do what needed doing. Most of the time, wound care was awesome. I loved it, and struggled more to keep my enthusiasm for the work hidden than any kind of reaction to the gross parts.

    Patients tend to not enjoy you saying things like “okay, that is so cool, I can see your femur”. Or, “oh wow, I can feel bone in here”. So I learned to keep my mouth shut while working. Being gleeful during wound care will get you a visit with your supervisor. Telling said supervisor “but it’s so cool! Nobody else gets to see this kind of thing” is surprisingly not going to be met with shared enthusiasm most of the time.

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      Nightmare fuel for sure, I could never.

      On the other hand, I love how enthusiastic (and disgusting) your whole comment is! Lol I am happy there are people like you who enjoy performing a very much needed job and hope they pay you accordingly.

      Are there any perks to this kind of job? Like how teachers get the summer off? (Do they still do that?) I had a friend who is a mortician and ahe said that one of the biggest perks of her job was that she diidn’t need to make small talk. A bit dark but a perk nonetheless.

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        23 hours ago

        Honestly, the perks were pretty damn intangible. Contacts with other caregivers and providers was the most useful one. Secondary, you build up community connections. There’s people in my area that have gone out of their way to help me decades after I took care of their family member. I’m still friends with some.

        At one point, I worked for the home health company that was a branch of the hospital, soi had acces to their medical library, and could attend seminars and lectures that would normally be only for enrolled students (teaching hospital).

        The contacts I made, back in the early 2ks, allowed me a chance to interview pathologists, coroners and medical examiners for a book I was planning to write.

        So, I guess that’s more tangible than I thought lol.

        But for me, I just loved being the guy that got to do the job. I was never happy it needed doing, but if it did need doing, at least I got to get in there. Since other parts of the job were a bit more difficult, having a patient that I was going to help heal was also a major boost and helped stave off burnout. Sometimes, no matter how well you handle end of life care, or chronic conditions, it grinds at you that the case only ends with death, or some other less pleasant outcome.

        But wound care? 95%, you do the job and when the case ends it’s because the wound is gone, and that feeling is like crack. You get little hits along the way as the wound improves, where you get to tell the patient how much has improved, that the infection is gone, or that it shrank over the weekend. But that big hit where you get to say “I won’t be here tomorrow because you don’t need me” holy crap is that magic. I’d ride home smiling and elated.

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      My dad had a wound pump from a bed sore. The wound was terrible. It had developed a an awful smell. No amount of antibiotics ever fixed it. My dad eventually died. Not because of the wound… Well, yeah, but it is ultimately that, was decades of diabetes and being overweight.

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      Jesus fucking Christ. Add me to the list of people who nearly passed out.

      I have several doctors and vets in my family including my grandfather and sister, but personally I could never do any of this. All due respect to you for doing this! Very valuable work.

      Blood I don’t mind. Ive been covered in my blood, others blood, animal blood. All good. But pus would have me dying, and entering a wound makes me gag.

      The vac tech sounds fascinating, gonna go google that.

      Personally I’d chop my hands off if I were you.

      Also a euthanasia fan here.

      Diarrhoea in wounds is mental. Please stop telling this story at parties. I beg you. Just lie and say you work for the Taliban or smth, yknow, smth more acceptable. But also, thank god you exist or those people are in terrible trouble.

      I mean I’m glad you enjoy it.

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      3 days ago

      Wow. Yeah I understand your fascination, I think I’d be the same in your shoes. But in the patient shoes, I’d be sad to hear that guy say he’s touching my femur. Because it’s a testament to the damage my body has, and I’m sure I’d get really anxious and depressed about it. So yeah.

      The gross story was gross though. I hope it wasn’t too painful for the patient.

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        3 days ago

        Well, he was paralysed, so he didn’t feel any of it. One of the rare upsides of paralysis.

        Some patients though, me geeking out over what was going on helped. They’d be scared and hurting, and then some guy comes in and is just chatting casually and talking about what’s going on, giving a play by play, and is happy to be there, it makes it harder to dread what’s happening. If I’m not upset and worried, it must not be that bad.

        I definitely had to learn what not to say though