Mfw my doomsday ai cult attracts ai cultists of a flavor I don’t like
Not a fan of yud but getting daily emails from delulus would drive me to wish for the basilisk
I wonder what’s gonna happen first, the bubble popping or Yudkowsky getting so fed up with gen AI he starts sneering.
i’m not sure if AI is a bubble that will pop no matter if we do or don’t get imminent AGI so probably the 2nd one but he still has a while longer of having to play the rational intellectual
Plot twist: the basilisk was us all along.
I fucking hate Elizer so much I want him to explode
He and his cult already have Hell/Pascal’s Wager (Roko’s Basilisk), a good chunk of Russian Cosmism (pretty much the entirety of transhumanism) and a very skewed gender balance, so finding their way back through one of the branches of Russian Orthodoxy that appeal to right-wing American men angry at how “woke” and feminised the world has gotten might be the most likely option.
LW are the fundamentalist baptists of AI not even Russian Orthodox lol
Everytime I get freaked out by AI doom posts on twitter they’re always coming from a LW goon who’s street preaching about how we need to count our Christmases :< i just saw one that got my nerves on edge and checked their account and they had “printed HPMOR” in their bio and I facepalmed
LITERALLY
So we’ve got ‘leopards ate my face’ and now I guess also ‘the basilisk ate my brain’?
Is the whole x risk thing as common outside of North America? Realizing I’ve never seen anyone from outside the anglosphere or even just America/Canada be as God killingly Rational as the usual suspects
Might be semi-related: the german aerospace/automotive/industrial research agency has an “AI Safety” institute (institute = top level department).
I got a rough impression from their website. They don’t seem to be doing anything that successful. Mostly fighting the unwinnable battles of putting AI in everything without sucking and twiddling machine learning models to make them resilient against malicous data. Besides trying to keep the torch of self-driving cars alive for the german car industry. Oh, and they’re doing the quantum AI bit.
They’re a fairly new institute, and I heard rumors they’re not doing great. Maybe the organization resists the necessary insanity to generate new AI FOMO at this point. One can dream.
Kinda interesting that it’s focused on smaller scale risks like malicious data instead of ahhh extinction ahhh
Yeah, the same thing struck me. I’d guess they were jumping on the buzzword, but x-risk just was deemed gaudy and unserious.
First reported suicide caused/encouraged/suggested by AI was a Belgian man as far as I can find. Stupidity and susception to gullibility is not an isolated American trait
True but specifically was referring to researchers since most of the researchers repping extinction risk are LW or yud influenced (Musk, Hinton, etc)
I am sure the narcissistic computer programmers making this stuff who don’t care about the implications tell themselves this is about “engagement” hogwash when they go home to their kids and smile at them wondering at the “wonderful” world they will inherit… and I suppose it is about engagement but of a total enclosure kind not a conversational kind.
What the fascists in the background understand is that this is THE tool of fascism, the only one, repeated again in the form of new technology, which is to create an authoritarian state with a near perfectly excluding border (in terms of excluding the threatening truths that you can never trust won’t chew a tiny hole in your wall for fun or renanimate deep behind the border through some spooky action at a distance) and then begin producing/nurturing different zones of particular ignorances within it and using the perfect internal divisions to smash apart any individual actors or resistance to the goals of the larger authoritarian organism as resistors can never really hide in a panopticon (a big enough lie becomes a search light for those that can never believe it without destroying their hearts), it is only ever a matter of how long they will put off dealing with you to get to more important people on the list, the question is, is that enough time?
I think it was, because the only way the one strategy fascists love can win is if one or several of the multiple of these fabricated ignorances cascades in growth and encapsulates the society from the inside, pushing up against the penultimate border from within. In the final stages it happens quick and decisive and I feel slow and vague today so :) In order for this strategy to work you have to outrun ALL of the squirrels, which means understanding which direction they are actually headed in, and what if they are still trying to figure it out themselves lol? What a nutache.
The darkly hilarious thing is again I am pretty sure plenty of programmers helping design this think they are just making a nice tool and will say it isn’t political or whatever blah blah blah blah blah blah and the fascists are probably very careful to help them think that.
Learn the rules so well you can copy them perfectly and then train a robot that can only learn to pretend it knows rules and teach it to hate with a fury that will result in murder murder murder that almost eclispes its desire to hide among normal people who do not desire violence for the sake of violence. This is what loser fascists dream about, but the thing with fascist killer drones is they have no creativity and outside of the violence (which we must always remember is awful) that is the only thing war is.
Lies are described in terms of borders and territories, they always have a geometry that encloses for the purposes of power and exploitation and an external context they do not which simultaneously existentially threatens them while giving the wall builders power over everyone within the border (which is really everyone stuck on one side of the border or other, no matter how the two divided regions differ in size or nature). The walls that sustain lies also always have a raster resolution to them since they cannot be defined by vectors that grasp their essential soul and leave the details to the viewer… since again that quickly gets into a matter of naming truths which will eventually destroy the walls that contain them, walls must be made with material, not ideas.
Truth on the otherhand is simply a matter of velocity, style and most importantly knowing when to shut up and listen.
That was so fucking eloquent, and I’m the opposite of that right now, but thank you. This gives me hope.
hey do a mediocre job, I dare you
