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  • Bonna Shejve@europe.pub
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    Polish concervatives will not sabotage NATO - because Trump will) Poland soon will be a target. Do you still believe that NATO without USA will fight for Poland? Or will send military troops to Poland? If yes you do not know the history like your new president Karol Nawrocky. Did you forget what happened in 1939? or earlier? Did you notice how Trump betrayed Ukraine? Do you think Poland is special for Trump and can you guarantee that he will not betray you too? Conservatives are destroying relationship with Ukraine and who will help you then? Would you able to fight one on one with russia like we do? How would Nawrocky look at eyes of Ukrainian women and children, Ukrainian president if your country is attacked by russia? So my advice instead of inciting hostility between the Ukrainian and Polish people - think who will benefit from this hostility? On whom your politicians are working in reality? Is what they do are in the best interests of ordinary Poles?

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      I never said I trust Trump or USA. No one said anything about them to begin with.

      If you know the politics of Poland, the Polish right-wing are different because they are anti-Russia. Nawrocki being elected will not negatively affect NATO. Judging from your profile, you are Ukrainian so you can relax about the new Polish president. Nawrocki was put on Russia’s wanted list after destroying a Soviet era statue. So he can’t be pro-Russia.

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        Yes, I am Ukrainian and I saw such politicians in Ukraine who after 2022 run away to russia. We believed them. We though that really care about Ukraine… All of them were working on russia, spreading russian lie. For me is clear that russia is afraid of Rzeczypospolita restoration because this union will destroy Moscow regime. Accusing Ukraine and Ukrainian in Volyn tragedy, in honoring Bandera and Shukhevych are not acceptable. We believe it is antiukrainian and prorussian rythoric. Explain you why. Regarding Bandera and Shukhevych - they were fighting for independence for Ukraine like we do now. And they were fighting with Moscow - it is the one and only our enemy from ancient times. So critisizm that we honor the memory of this people is not acceptable. In the same time we are rejecting nazism - we believe that all people are equal and have right to confess any religion. Unlike in Poland. Regarding Volyn tragedy - we know that seim recognized Volyn tragedy as genocide made by Ukrainians against Polish people. It is absolutely biased decision. First of all Ukraine in 1943 was not independent to accept such solutions. Second it was a war and we were fighting on 2 fronts - with German nazi and soviet nazi. So your media, politicians and church want to present Ukraine in a bad light and blame it for the crimes committed by the Moscow regime. It is unacceptable.
        Another example how russia want to destroy relations between Ukraine and Poland - occurred when Polish politicians (and FSB agents at the same time) such as Slawomir Metzen closed the border and scattered Ukrainian grain. Knowing what effect this would have on Ukraine, which lost from 5 to 30 million people during the Holodomor of 1932-1933…

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          I am not a Pole so I don’t know why you seem panicking and writing a wall of text to explain yourself lol. My guess is that you live in Poland at the moment and I heard that there is ongoing tension with locals after taking in so many Ukrainians. Don’t worry, the Poles won’t abandon Ukraine. Because the good news is that the previous conservative Polish party that ruled Poland for 13 years have always helped Ukraine since the Russian takeover of Crimea. All major parties in Poland are supportive of Ukraine, because most Poles are anti-Russia (not against the Russian people but against Kremlin). Both Ukraine and Poland have a mutual dislike of Kremlin and Putin so your country and Poland will always help together.

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            I live in Ukraine. I noticed that you are not Polish because you do not know details. We were watching a politician campaign of Nawrocky, Tszaskowsky and Metzen and the impact of social media made on Presidential elections. Personally I love Poles and I know that many of them sympatize Ukraine and hate Russia. But I am trying to tell you what russian propaganda wants to accomplish in Poland , how this impact Ukrainians and as a result - Poland and it is very sad because I see how quickly truth posts are deleted in Polish media space. So our goal - is permanent war with lie

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              Don’t worry about the Polish right. They are anti-Kremlin since day one. The people in countries that border Russia including Finland, Estonia, Lithuania and Latvia are very anti-Russia. So, it makes any political parties from both left and right in those countries also anti-Russia. Being pro-Russia in them is a political suicide (Romania is a different case but that is another topic).

              The only right wing you should worry about is the Western right being useful idiots for Russia.