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The key thing here is that the less overshoot the better, and the amount of overshoot we can afford is small.

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    No one with any political power is even remotely trying to prevent that. Maybe we can have a huge war that kills billions to slow the rate of ascent. It is the most likely path that actually results in a timely emissions reduction that is politically tenable (see Iran v. Israel and Pakistan v. India for potential starting points, Ukraine v. Russia could escalate too, I suppose).

    More likely, the climate will start killing us in greater quantities (famines, floods, hurricanes, droughts) resulting in an emission reduction. Eventually, it is a self correcting problem, but that most likely outcome maximizes suffering.

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      Well Iran vs Israel is already happening and escalating into probably a forever war but I doubt war will help climate change War itself also causes a fuck ton of emissions and environmental damage

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        It hasn’t really ramped up to anywhere near the levels I am talking about yet. I am looking at it from a perspective of WW3 woth billions dead before it lowers carbon emissions. Pretty that carbon will not be our worst concern among all of the fallout.

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      Xi seems to be putting China on a decarbonization trajectory. Not as fast as we need, but one that’s meaningful