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    Well maybe they shouldn’t have gotten in bed with the US/NATO in the first place, not exactly shedding a tear for the nazis over here

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      I’m not going to debate whatever you have to say. You are clearly misinformed.

      But since you like Russian (dis)information so much, perhaps you should read the russian book called foundations of geopolitics. Specifically the section on Ukraine.

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        The Foundations of Geopolitics was written by a fascist who is more popular with European & American fascists than with his own government or people.

        Maybe you should read The Grand Chessboard—written by someone who had actual influence in US government geostrategy—specifically the sections on Ukraine and the eastern expansion of NATO.

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          To be clear, I support Ukraine and Ukrainian sovereignty. I do not believe that Ukraine is run by Nazis or fascists.

          I’m very much aware who Alexander durgan is. My point was that this urgently required special military operation has been a pre-planned eugenist and fascist operation that has been planned by the Russian government since the '90s. You know 35 years. Kind of invalidates the whole idea that Russia is only reacting to on the ground facts and movements.

          Ukraine (except Western Ukraine) should be annexed by Russia because “Ukraine as a state has no geopolitical meaning, no particular cultural import or universal significance, no geographic uniqueness, no ethnic exclusiveness, its certain territorial ambitions represents an enormous danger for all of Eurasia and, without resolving the Ukrainian problem, it is in general senseless to speak about continental politics”. Ukraine should not be allowed to remain independent, unless it is cordon sanitaire, which would be inadmissible according to Western political standards. As mentioned, Western Ukraine (comprising the regions of Volynia, Galicia, and Transcarpathia), considering its Catholic-majority population, are permitted to form an independent federation of Western Ukraine but should not be under Atlanticist control.

          Foundations of geopolitics excerpt on Ukraine.

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              You seem to be very confused. I am stating that Dugan has been leading Putins foreign policy because the things that Dugan wrote for the most part have been executed by Putin’s governments.

              Dugin is apparently quite popular among Russian brass

              Dugan is for a fact speaking completely out of his ass, it doesn’t change the fact that he’s loved and respected and his words are preached across the Russian federation.

              I used to know a few moscovites and discuss politics but that was before Ukraine happened

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                I’m not confused. Dugin is an utter clown whom Putin wouldn’t even give the time of day. He’s not leading shit, except other Western crypto-fascist grifters like Caleb Maupin.

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                  Again, you seem confused. I agree with you that Dugan is a clown. Where I am disagreeing with you is the fact that he is uninfluential. If he was a nut job as you propose and treated as such by his fellow Russians, then his plans would not see the light of day let alone battlefield action.

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                    Despite Western governments and Western media claims to the contrary, Dugin’s plans haven’t seen the light of day, Brzezinski’s have: his neocon plans to expand NATO eastward and leverage Ukrainian Banderites, to weaken & isolate Russia, and ideally to balkanize it. Ukraine is a pawn on Brzezinski’s chessboard. This is the war the United States has wanted for decades, as explained in the book he wrote around when he was Carter’s National Security Advisor. Meanwhile Dugin’s job title may as well be social media influencer. Even Wikipedia doubts his state influence.

                    We were lied to about the Iraq war, we were lied to about the Ukraine war, and they’re already lying to us about the Iran war.

                    Previously. Previously.