“With respect to the Jewish communities that I represent, I think our nominee is going to have to convince folks that he is prepared to aggressively address the rise in antisemitism in the city of New York, which has been an unacceptable development,” Jeffries said on ABC’s This Week.
i seriously hope hakeem jeffries looses whatever elections he tries to run in.
As far as I’ve seen thus far, Mamdani:
- has never espoused an antisemitic opinion
- has affirmed his commitment to ensuring that Jewish New Yorkers are protected from heinous antisemitic attacks, and also has condemned the attack against Israeli embassy staffers in DC
- has high-profile Jewish allies and backers for his campaign
- has condemned Hamas’ attack on Israel on October 7th in very clear and direct terms
- stated that Muslims and Jews in New York can be an example to the world in how they communicate and get along with each other
- is not running to be mayor of Israel
Also, Jeffries sucks.
I think it’s high time we take over the Democratic Party and drive these dinosaurs out, with pitchforks if need be.
The Democratic Party cannot be taken over. It is not a democratic institution. You could have 70% of elected Democrats agreeing with you and being variations on Mamdani and “party leadership” wouod still be outside your hands and they would still be working against you and there would be nothing you could do to advance your position in the party. It is a private, bourgeois institutional governed by ita donors and those donors’ supplicants.
More practically, what you could hope for is entryism and then a split. That is the basic claimed premise by DemSocs in DSA who argue for running as Dems. Unsurprisingly, this is a Trotskyist tactic and basically never works. But trying and failing in a very public way may still be a boon for radicalization and growing our ranks.
But only with discipline (or luck)! The Dems will try to coopt everything appealing about DemSocs without stepping on the toes of donors. And that cooption begins with Mamdani himself, who will be constantly pressured to soften his stances and be more lib. DSA has zero discipline whatsoever, so with someone like Mamdani one would have to depend on luck, i.e. just this one guy being principled. This is the DSA way and it is why they eat shit in 90% of their electoralism, they back candidates with no vetting and usually provide no support. But maybe they got lucky with this one guy.
Thank fuck PSL hasn’t been doing entryism
It’s a truly exhausting strategy. It takes so much work and for very little payoff. And often (usually?) it just makes everyone involved mad at each other and burned out, even worse off than before.
There are ways to make “foment a split” work if your goal is to enrich a particular group and then peel them off of a dead-end org to instead do good work. To me this only makes sense if that group basically already exists but is stuck being useless.
Some commie factions in DSA are basically doing this, knowingly or not, and with unclear success. All DSA factions are basically premised on exhausting their opposing factions as much as possible by being a (often fairly insufferable) advocate for their positions. Obviously the libs are the most guilty of this, they tolerate genocide and tokenize etc etc, but this sets the battleground up: keep opposing these libs within that group and tiring them out or go to another org where you don’t have to deal with them, at least internally. If you do the former, you are a hair’s breadtg from an entryist + split position, as you are not going to convince the libs, generally speaking, but you may eventually get them to force a split on some key issue, and when your faction is large enough to either take over the org or leave and form a new one.
Entryism is basically this same thing only less authentic because you don’t even think of yourselves as truly part of the org, and instead try to join and take over as fundamentally external.
Only disagree with: “they back candidates with no vetting and usually provide no support.”
The volunteer effort around Zohran was nuts, I mean I read 50,000 volunteers around a DSA member, that’s not “no support”.
Whether you think those 50,000 people are wasting their time is another thing but I feel like this website’s hatred of DSA is so hyperbolic at times, and especially contradictory towards Zohran
Well I used a weasel word qualifier of “usually” because there are exceptions of course. There is no internal standard or political education program in DSA so it really depends on what composes a given local chapter and who their leadership currently are. It ranges from jokers that never win anything and don’t even file for candidacy in time (because they forgot, because life is hard, because Todd was supposed to do it but then he got sick) all the way up to a Mamdani who has been a force for years and has a coalition backing him, not just NY DSA, who are very electorally invested and do have competent people (but overly suffer from electoralism brain and therefore liberalism).
PS you’d hate a lot of NY DSA if you had conversations with them about basically anything regarding imperialism or unions having petty bourgeois limitations or how much to avoid criticizing Iron Dome AOC. Most of them would get themselves banned from this site for chauvinism.
I’ve heard on this site that local DSA can be a lot better than national DSA
At what point is association with the Democrats a detriment to achieving the political objectives of the socialist project?
Not trying to start an argument just interested in your opinion
A long ways from now, honestly. Having a (D) after your name means a lot of checked out voters will pick you automatically, and it doesn’t really cost you anything. The Dem establishment would employ just as much vitriol and ratfucking against him if that was an (I) or an (S).
No idea.
The DNC is a private organization, it can’t be taken over on a basis that is against the wishes of the owners short of first controlling the government, which won’t happen. There is no taking over the Democratic Party except as successors in their disgusting project. It’s good that we have people like Mamdani trying to help people, but what makes him useful is just as much the demonstration that the party is a dead end.
it’s high time we take over the Democratic Party
were you living under a rock between 2016 and 2024
No. Did we take it over?
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I somehow doubt these ghouls would be happy if anyone were to actually address the rise of antisemitism by making it illegal to conflate Judaism with the genocidal actions of an apartheid entity
address the rise in antisemitism
i.e., lock up students who participate in pro-Palestinian rallies
Even though he talked for a really long time today? I mean, not Cory Booker long, but still really long time: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/03/us/politics/hakeem-jeffries-house-speech-magic-minute-trump-bill.html
more performance theater from the democrats.
it’s disgusting how he’s being treated by his own party, right?The word “antisemitism” is starting to lose meaning. I hope it doesn’t swing the other way where actual antisemitism gets tossed out with the bathwater, but we’re hitting a point of absurdity with the argument that being pro-human rights for Palestinians or critical of Israel is evidence of antisemitism. It’ll be interesting to see what happens between now and the election. The establishment is going to spend a lot of money trying to paint Mamdani as a radical jihadist. Whether it works or not, it’s going to contribute to the erosion of the impact of baseless antisemitism accusations. He’s going to be campaigning on transit and cost of living, and if the response to that is “he wants to kill all the Jews!!” then there’s a good chance he’s going to look like the more reasonable party.
This “swing” has already happened with Zionist attacks and erasure on Jewish people support of Palestine etc
Israeli government and the IDF are two of the most anti semitic organizations in the world currently.
Gillen argued that Mamdani has promised voters “free everything” but has no “real economic plan to pay for it, other than raising taxes.”
That IS a plan to pay for it, and it’s no doubt why people voted for him, because they want you rich ghouls to give something back for a change and slightly improve the conditions for poor people in the city that made you wealthy. They really are just threatening people with a good time.
Fuck these ungrateful bastards.
The working class regularly votes away their medicare and everyone wants to give it all to the rich. No one cares that the working class can’t afford it. The working class just takes it on the chin, no problem.
“HoW aRe YoU gOiNg To PaY fOr It!”
Oh, I won’t porky will. Time that digusting glutton learned to go without. The pig doesn’t need it.
The fact that in the US you can openly be a political “top donor”, trying to influence politics in your favor via naked corruption, then bitch about it when you haven’t rigged the game enough to get exactly what you want and still leave the house without getting killed tells you everything you need to know
“Democrats” whining about the democratic process. How 'bout that.
When they haven’t had a Democratic Primary apply Democracy since at least as far back as 2008?
The D in DPRK is also “Democratic”. But when they have nothing but “Kims” leading ever, and for life? I have to question if that word is applied in the same way we understand it.
Yea! What are we, a bunch of Asians?
I dislike this whataboutism, this shibboleth, that must be stated before critiquing the Democratic party.
in the same way we understand it.
we
go fuck yourself, liberal
Okay gaslit redfash. 🖕
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If you wanna actually talk that out? Maybe teach me something you don’t expect me to know?
I’m game. However, you might find I chose my words carefully when dealing with a US Liberal in a discussion on US politics. What, with shared Material Conditions.
If all you wanna do is hate on a comment you dislike? You’re welcome to choose which corner of the US-imposed, globally-projected dumpster-fire you die in.
Either way? Death to the Empire and rehab for those trapped within.
I’m game. However, you might find I chose my words carefully when dealing with a US Liberal in a discussion on US politics. What, with shared Material Conditions.
What makes you think you’re dealing with a US liberal in a discussion on US politics here, of all places?
A fair point.
The emphasis on voting, and openly running defense for Liberal politicians.
Difference is the DPRK has elections for these things
Inside one party where, I don’t see any outside body validating results.
Does anyone need to? Nah. Does the DPRK need anyone to validate their legitimacy? Nah, but it would be one hell of a flex on US “Democracy.”
They did the thing!
The DPRK is actually democratic though, did you mean to compare them to the comprador bourgeois dictatorship of “south Korea”?
Nah, I didn’t understand quite who I was talking to, and chose a frame a Liberal would take the way you’re taking it.
But when you’re talking about Democracy within a single party? An American isn’t going to understand the party as a structure to unify all, they’re going to take it as the domination of one Camp over another. And that’s something I need Communists to take from that same statement.
An American is not going to see anything they recognize as Democracy in the DPRK. Especially when three leaders in a row are named Kim, we’re going to see a Monarchy.
Is that reality? I don’t have the access to know. But I have read enough Kim Il Sung to realize how much of their theory really isn’t that different from anything else leftist, just presented in a way that fit the moment for the Korean people.
So you knew what you said was incorrect but said it anyway. You shouldn’t do that, it’s just going to cause confusion.
Top Democratic Bribers are disgusting.
all my apes gone
