I don’t want to be in close proximity to fascists.
I’m glad we ran them out.
America should follow suit.
We should run them down, instead.
Lances are heavy and my horse is hungry.
That’s reason #8,647 why the French invented the guillotine, friend.
Vive la France!
Good, they can go be on a website based on their ideals. Like capitalism? Dont move to a free and open source platform. Go continue licking boots on reddit
Capitalism is good
.ml is a tankie istance and stans authoritarians.
Conservatives and tankies both love authoritarians, but mostly exclusively different ones, so they tend to hate each other.
I downvote every post from .ml I see.
Their users smell bad.
They’re the original Lemmyites. They won’t go away so easily.
That’s why I plan to leave to PieFed once it’s mature enough. They’ll still be around, but I won’t be using a platform developed by them.
Tankies don’t seem nearly as bigoted, at least.
TBF, that is a low bar to clear.
No they just hand wave genocide.
Yeah, but not because they hate the genocidees, it’s because they love the genociders.
You know what Nazi apologists are called?
Nazis.
There really isn’t much difference at that point.
Ask them what they think about Cuban, Vietnamese, or North Korean refugees.
I honestly have been loving the internet a lot more since we started quarantining the fascists in twitter.
They can only leave to join a new community when they grow out of their edgy teenager phase. Otherwise they get ostracized.
Make Fascists Ashamed Again.
There are conservatives who aren’t fascist though
It’s a rounding error. The number of Republicans who voted against Trump in 2020 was like 1%.
Yeah, they’re called Democrats now.
With Democrats being a big tent party I wouldn’t bee too surprised that there’s a conservative wing to it
More than a “wing,” since they control the vast majority of it. Everyone else (with any power) are little more than small offshoots.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
I don’t get what this means
Manifesta probatione non indigent
If it were manifest, we wouldn’t be having the discussion. A single example would prove me wrong.
Wait I thought that was a reply to a different post down the tree. Yeah, no, they’re aren’t any.
If you feel unwelcome on lemmy, it’s probably because you’re not welcome here.
I know you’re referring to the folks referenced in the topic, but it’s best not to put that as a general statement. I’m not going to comment on political inclusivity, but there are still ways to be more inclusive and broaden perspectives. For example, a lot of women feel unwelcome here, and probably a lot of people from the disabled community, among others.
Correction: If you feel unwelcome on lemmy because you’re a conservative
Most so called conservatives I saw here were actual racists or people who can only live and feel good by hating other marginalized groups. And these people are definitely not wanted here.
conservatives I saw here were actual racists or people who can only live and feel good by hating other marginalized groups
Yeah, that’s basically the definition of being a conservative.
Yes, the hateful assholes the economic conservatives tolerated for their support took over the conservative space.
Exactly. If a bunch of Nazis took over my groups, I would leave those groups.
Anyone who still calls themselves “conservatives” or tries to associate with them is either stupid, stupidly uninformed, or a nazi.
That’s not to say I hate the people currently leaving those circles, but like… cmon. What took you so long??
One of those funny coincidences that keeps happening.
Good, fuck 'em.
I used to lurch into conservative subreddits routinely. Each one turned into an openly fascist circlejerk and banned all dissent.
Once you strip away the “making the libs cry” aspect of conservative social media, they lose all interest in talking to each other. That’s why Parler failed, that’s why Trump’s blog failed, that’s why these people won’t just leave these platforms they hate so much.
And that is the underlying principle behind their hysteria toward “cancel culture” and deplatforming. They aren’t upset at losing the right to speak (nor have they lost it). They’re upset that they’re being deprived of access to a captive audience of non-conservatives to upset.
It’s not advocacy for free speech, it’s advocacy against the freedom of association.
boy who wouldn’t want r/conservative over here. many much big branes.
You’ve been here long enough to have seen the conservative shift as more Redditors come here
This post doesn’t ring true
Wait, we kicking the shit out of conservatives?
Did I miss the fun AGAIN?! Damn…
Activate locally, citizen. ✊🏼🌈
As if .ml would take the time off their busy schedule regurgitating Trumps/Putins right wing propaganda to kick fascist ass.
They want to remain in their small, closed off bubbles. Experiencing different social networks beats the purpose.
It’s got to be a shame kink or something, right?
I’m no conservative [I’m a LibSoc/Anarchist], but I can see why they wouldn’t want to be on Lemmy. It’s not the most open-minded group of people. As soon as someone thinks even slightly different in some small way, they’re labeled a fascist or some other pejorative as a way to end the discussion and critical thinking process to exclude constructively contemplating what was said. People can’t just have reasonable debates anymore. Insults are thrown and groupthink becomes more isolated and heightened within their own dogma. And their communities are brigaded regularly. It happens on their side too. The human race just seems fucked.
That depends on what sort of conservative viewpoints you’re taking about. I see people expressing opinions that I would associate with what I think of as Eisenhower conservatives and they are met with civil discussions. It’s when people start in with the post-Nixon bigoted, poor hating, corporate/wealthy bootlicking, regressive “conservative” viewpoints that people are less likely to engage beyond calling them out because there is probably no point to anything else. One obvious exception to this is someone unknowingly stumbling into a post on the tankie triad and saying something with even a whiff of conservatism. That’s not going to go well. But it doesn’t take long to learn that.
I’m no conservative…
And so I brace myself for the usual rightist dog whistles…
As soon as someone thinks even slightly different in some small way, they’re labeled a fascist or some other pejorative … can’t just have reasonable debates anymore. … groupthink … dogma. … brigaded … their side …
There it is.
If someone gets called a fascist here, it’s almost always because that person is meeting the definition of a fascist. We have a lot of different kinds of leftists here and a lot of lively and healthy debate. What you can’t get away with on Lemmy is being an awful person. If you advocate hate, oppression, authoritarianism, misinformation, injustice, etc you will be called out.
Unless you are spending time on ml or hexbear, but tankies are rightists who unironically claim they’re leftist. It’s best to avoid those places.
Good job on providing a perfect example of exactly what he’s talking about.
Huh, a cogent rebuttal, examples of why they think the argument they are responding to is riddled with assumptions and the theard OP engaging in the behavior that is being complained about.
Seems like you should reread both comments.
There what is? Their comment gives virtually zero indication of what they actually believe or stand for, apart from a vague self-identification as “LibSoc/Anarchist”; and you’re already going for the jugular.
If you advocate hate, oppression, authoritarianism, misinformation, injustice, etc you will be called out.
That’s not even remotely true. Misinformation that fits a leftist narrative is repeated often and uncritically. Debunking and nuance gets deleted, banned, and called fascist. Antisemitism is rampant. Russia, China, any anti-western tyrant or terror group is routinely defended and advocated for.
The Overton window on Lemmy is very narrow. People get banned from big news and politics subs for stating views that are mainstream in the American Democratic Party or European Social democratic parties.
It sounds like you might be encountering ml or hexbear, which are full of tankies, who are rightists appropriating leftist terminology for authoritarian/rightist purposes. The nice thing about lemmy is that it’s federated, so certain instances and communities can be avoided if desired.
No, this happens on lemmy.world, sopuli, and many others. The mods running news and politics communities have a political agenda they follow, disregarding their own published rules.
!yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com has examples.
When and where has that happened to you on here? Let’s be clear, there are always going to be individual bad actors, but outside of .ml and hexbear, that has not been a trend I’ve observed.
I think there’s furious and constant discussion between the various left leaning and far left groups on Lemmy, but “”“brigading”“” isn’t real. That’s just using the website.
Brigading is real and your instance is guilty.
Hey, just because shitass tankies do it does not mean all of Lemmy supports those confused assholes.
Not what I was saying and you know that. If you aren’t a tankie, don’t defend them.
If brigading is real but only mostly .ml does it, that means all of lemmy doesn’t do it and it’s unfair to say it’s a feature of all of lemmy. Yes, you DID imply it by the very context of this entire discussion. Or did you forget what the main topic was already?
And you edited your comment.
I don’t use spell check or autocorrect. If you’re going to stand on such flimsy ground, then good luck being a brainless clown incapable of parsing anything anywhere near as complex as the real world. Genuinely, pathetic reasoning from you.
Conjecture.
Post proof of this or this is pure bullshit.
They hate you, because you are telling the truth.
It’s not a matter of “fear”, it’s frankly a massive waste of time if you’re seeking an honest & fruitful political discussion. Much like Reddit, Lemmy is one big-ass liberal echo chamber with only a handful of “acceptable” viewpoints, opinions. Anyone else is shouted down, slandered, and of course downvoted to hell. They stuff words in your mouth that you never said, assign beliefs to you that you don’t hold. Arguing with these types is like playing chess with a pigeon; it’ll knock over pieces, shit on the board, and strut all around as though it’s the winner.
At time of writing, your comment stands at -18…and it is 100% true, factually correct. The irony.
The human race does indeed just seem fucked. 🙂🙃🙃🙃🙃
Dull mewling.
Come to Beehaw. In my experience, discussions there are more thoughtful and respectful than in some of the bigger instances. ML in particular is straight cancer.
