An attendee asked Cuomo directly if he or his team was in conversation with the White House about how Trump might influence the race. Cuomo didn’t directly deny it this time.
“Let’s put it this way: I knew the president very well,” Cuomo said. “I believe there’s a big piece of him that actually wants redemption in New York. He feels that he was rejected by New York. We voted for Hillary Clinton. Bill de Blasio took his name off things. So I believe there will be opportunities to actually cooperate with him. I also believe that he’s not going to want to fight with me in New York if he can avoid it.”
“We can minimize (the Sliwa) vote, because he’ll never be a serious candidate,” Cuomo told the crowd at a Hamptons fundraiser Saturday, according to audio obtained by Playbook. “And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani. And you’ll be wasting your vote on Sliwa. So I feel good about that.”
“And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani.”
Pretty strong endorsement for Mamdani, that.
When you seeing enemies like this, you know you are going the right way.
Dems will always pull to the right to beat The Left. Wake up. They don’t care about or represent you.
Dems will always pull to the right to beat The Left. Wake up. They don’t care about or represent you.
I agree with you, but I want to point out the strategy was mostly to get moderate voter who tend to vote Republican to vote for them, not to get moderate Republicans to vote for them. Slightly different, but an important distinction. It was still stupid and failed either way though, because they had to abandon people who are more on their side to do so.
the strategy was mostly to get moderate voter who tend to vote Republican to vote for them, not to get moderate Republicans to vote for them. Slightly different, but an important distinction.
What’s the difference? If you’re a moderate voter who votes Republican, then you’re a…moderate Republican. That’s what a moderate Republican is.
I don’t know if you’re aware but you can register your party affiliation. Some states require this to vote in primaries. The graph above is for registered rebublicans, not people who tend to vote Republican.
Fair point, and thank you for the clarification!
Tankies that discourage voting are also preventing movement to the left.
When you find one of those, be sure to let them know that. I voted for Harris in 2024 and freely speak only for myself for 2028.
Fucking “tankies” - the bogeymen of .world. What a fucking lazy way to dismiss perspectives you don’t want to consider.
I’ve met several that refuse to vote in the .ml servers. If you don’t vote and discouraged others then your preventing the move back left. Voting is still one part of building our leftist movement.
Yes, thank you for the grossly misdirected scolding. Have a nice day now!
Voting is part of how we move back left. They often refuse making them part of the mechanism that prevents us from moving back left. If enough people no show for Mamdani he could still lose. Harm minimization is still important and part of how we obstruct, and they want to no show.
What am I miss directing?
What am I miss directing?
The individual you seem to be directing the scolding to.
That person, whom I can assure you, you will not hear from after this, is:
- Not a tankie.
- A Harris voter.
- Not discouraging people from voting
- Sharing memes that bump up against characteristics of Democrats that you seem to prefer would go unmentioned. That doesn’t change the answers to numbers 1 through 3.
Thus, your scolding is misdirected, annoying, and not whatsoever landing how or where it should.
Further, I could give a shit if you don’t like that I’m questioning the honor of dems. Not being allowed to do so is how we fucking got here. If Democrats have to pretend they haven’t been doing exactly what they’ve been doing for decades (edit: I will amend that to “at least the past 10 years”) in order to get votes in the future, they are no better than R.
On the other hand, they can stop playing for the scraps R leaves behind whenever they want.
If enough people no show for Mamdani he could still lose.
Is anybody on the left saying that people should sit out this election, though? I think that people who are typically apathetic about voting would actually show up to the polls when somebody like Mamdani is running; that is, somebody who is both good on the issues and is popular. Typically, the politicians who are good on the issues have such small budgets and are so marginalized that nobody knows who they are, so the voters who would support them just stay home. Mamdani managed to pull off the hat-trick of being both a Democratic Socialist and winning a Democratic primary.
What happened to InternetCitizen1?
Dead
Stooooop. He was primaried out of the race, the dem voters did that in NYC. There are absolutely shitty people on the dem side, but it’s not the entire party like the republicans right now.
Besides, it’s the people in the party that make the party. Do grass roots shit to get the people causing issues out of the party.
Like the kid that got elected to the DNC then they decided they didn’t do the voting correctly and he needed to go after they realized he really meant it when he said he was going to primary “asleep at the wheel” sitting Dems?
Yeah, what happened with that?
They kicked him out.
I thought they were going to redo the election
Nope it was just an excuse to push him out. Blatant corruption
So they’re just not going to redo it, just say “You lost because you won!” and have that be that?
I mean I knew what they were doing, I just didn’t think they were going to be this obvious about it.
I capitalized Dems because I’m using the proper noun. People who vote for that party are largely not at fault because they have been brainwashed to think Dems are actually progressive. For the most part, they’re simply not properly educated about politics and our system ensures that.
Dems, like this asshat and Pelosi, don’t give a fuck about you. Nor did Hilary. Nor did Obama. Even when they sound good, they prove themselves, by their actions, to care more about corporations and their own power than they care for the people.
What’s the alternative?
We’re seeing it in New York with Mamdani; stop voting for these old dinosaurs that don’t care about you, support DSA candidates and third party leftists who actually want to help you. It takes a shitton more work than just voting, and includes working for their campaigns as well.
100% agree. There is a lot of trolling on Lemmy to “Don’t vote dem!” because it has worked in the past. We have to say one or 2 replies to them so people understand that they’re trolling. It’s obvious by their responses.
Nobody is saying don’t vote for progressives. A lot of people are saying they will not vote for a conservative in general elections, so if the dems ratfuck progressives, they guarantee their own loss.
Every time you say “vote blue no matter who” and demand people pledge to vote dem no matter what, you help the dnc maintain the delusion they can win while trying to be republicans.
I knew we were cooked when we had people demanding I pledge to vote blue 1 month into the genocide in Gaza, a year before the election, instead of joining me in telling the dems what they need to do to win.
He’s running independent.
That doesn’t make him any less of a Dem. It only means he couldn’t win their nomination.
Is he running on the dem ticket?
Or is it a socialist running on the dem ticket due to a primary win?
The socialist isn’t a Dem. Cuomo is a Dem. This is regardless of which one won. I’m a socialist and would vote for Zohran if I lived there.
The Dems (including Cuomo) are attempting to undermine Zohran’s campaign. What about that position do you find untrue?
What about that position do you find untrue?
That Cuomo is running as an independent and that Mamdani is running as a Democrat.
Is he a dem soc? Damn right, and I’m damn happy to have him run (and win, I hope the idiots who won’t vote for him split between the jackasses running as independent).
But he’s still running as a Democrat.
And Cuomo is not running as a democrat. He’s running as an independent, making a choice to not support the person who won the democrat ticket. If that doesnt mark a split from supporting the democrat party, I really dont know what does.
Better let Dem party leaders know this, they’ve yet to publicly endorse Mamdani.
I dont believe that impacts how his name is presented on the ticket…
We’re talking past one another. I’m not going to engage further. We disagree on terminology and there doesn’t appear to be a solution to that. Good luck to you.
The Democratic party is composed of whoever wins the primary and various internal party elections. The fact that people like you can’t seem to understand that is why it’s still in such a dire state.
The fact that I defected in favor of true progressives and socialists because Dems are centrists is part of why they are in such a dire state. They sold us out. That people like you don’t recognize that and demand more is also why they are so ineffectual and hence in a dire state.
The Democratic Party is the DNC. Not its voters. Not every person running on their ticket.
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Doesn’t make him any less of a right wing neo con shit stain*
This story should be on billboards. FUCK Cuomo and FUCK the DNC.
Regime whores don’t get second chances.
Man I’m so used the titles over blowing things but this one really shook me. It’s way worse than the title implies. He’s straight up saying he’ll kiss up the Trump. Sex Predators always stick together I swear.
This is the actual headline, I editorialize if I think the headline is shitty. I usually take a line from the body of the article.
Cuomo’s seeking a Trump bump
Men who predate together stay together.
Well i mean Hillary paid for Trump to run. The party members arent gonna vote against their friends and the people that help them steal money from their supporters to pay their siblings as advisers.
“And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani.”
Of course they will. Protecting sexual predators is what R does these days. That and concentration camps.
DNC komissars would rather have trump in office than Bernie circa 2016
They botched 2024 by pushing kamala that nobody wanted ot liked…
They are helping unpopular sex pests with extensive history of corruption including on homeless services and caused excess death in new York retirement homes.
At what point, will the normie accept DNc is the enemy.
They will help this regime whores over young blood getting people a energized.
DNC is the enemy of the people along with the republicans.
Both political institutions in the USA are compromised and two halves of the same coin. That has become more clear lately, but also should always have been known. They play us against each other so that “they” always win and take home the bag while we squabble over some scraps.
They didn’t really have much choice besides pushing Kamala due to various complications with campaign finance law and the limited time frame to run a selection process. I don’t think the DNC neoliberal types particularly cared who the nominee was as long as it wasn’t someone who would stand in their way. They would have been perfectly happy to go with a different candidate. One of the big risks though was that if the party did anything other than have Kamala take over the campaign the new candidate would lose access to all of the money the campaign had raised and would be forced to start over from scratch. With the compressed time frame available for a selection process it also basically guaranteed that selection process would be a shitshow that risked dividing the party further at exactly the worst time in the election cycle. If your choice is between a messy public fight producing a candidate covered in shit with no money or campaign infrastructure, or the VP who is already on the ticket could just take over the existing campaign…
You’re correct if we assume that Biden staying in the race until it was too late to have a real primary was they only possible outcome. That’s obviously not true though.
I am trying to imagine a scenario where the DNC intervenes to push out Biden before the debate debacle and I really can’t. I agree that had Biden left earlier things would have gone differently, maybe worse or maybe better, it’s tough to say. I don’t agree though that the DNC could have pushed Biden out prior to that point, that is a major move that would play out really badly without the context that Biden’s debate performance ultimately provided. I think Biden and his closest family and advisers who were encouraging him to keep going are primarily responsible for it being too late, and that the DNC intervening to push Biden out earlier in the campaign would likely have gone terribly for everyone even if it were successful. Which it probably wouldn’t have been, because even after the debate debacle it was still a major challenge to convince Biden and his advisers that dropping out was the correct choice.
The DNC didn’t need to push him out. He could have made the decision himself. In fact, he told us he wasn’t planning on running for a second term as part of his 2020 pitch.
In a less fucked up world he would have passed the baton 3 years in. I think that was the most likely scenario for things to have worked out in the least shitty way that was reasonably possible, given the context and hindsight.
Sure buddy whatever makes you sleep at night.
This is pathetic reasoning why DNC keeps losing elections like a clock work.
What do you think you are contributing with this comment?
The DNC being shit at elections is exactly why that scenario seems like it would have been the best path and still within the bounds of reasonably possible given the constraints involved. It would have put Kamala in the optimal position and given her a year to pin inflation and everything else unpopular on Biden while also having incumbency, the entire political dynamic of the country would have been changed. She could have had a clean break and gone into the election with a coherent campaign built from the ground up. It’s not the best outcome obviously, we still end up with Kamala vs. Trump but the odds would likely be much more against Trump. My only point is that in this counterfactual Trump is at his biggest disadvantage within a realistic scenario. If you think otherwise explain. And if you think any of this is somehow a defense of the DNC, read again more carefully.
Thank you
You think him and trump will bond over their shared passion of being inappropriate to women?
Do any liberals want to lecture progressives about voting blue no matter who? About how primaries are the time to disagree? About how the two parties aren’t the same?
How he got beat in the primary by Mamdani and Cuomo is running as an independent?
Edit: Whoops, not a liberal, answered anyway.
Still though - this is quite literally the example of “primary them and replace with progressives”. Like, to the letter of what you’re trying to complain about not happening is exactly what happened.
You can easily read about it in any of these articles:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/01/zohran-mamdani-ranked-choice-results-00435184
https://www.city-journal.org/article/new-york-city-mayoral-primary-results-zohran-mamdani
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/01/nyregion/mamdani-wins-mayor-primary-nyc.html
Please feel free to ask any questions you may have about how a socialist won in the primary, defeating liberals, as a means to leverage the democrat ticket for a progressive win.
I believe that’s what they were sarcastically saying.
Hey guys, when it was your candidate you said “blue no matter who”. Now it’s a further left candidate. Can you please continue lecturing me about “blue no matter who”?
Or similar. I’m not a wordologist, that’s just how I understood it.
I would like to believe you are right and I misread sarcasm. Unfortunately they will need to clarify because I’ve seen too many other similar comments without any sarcasm in there at all.
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> “… you’ll be wasting your vote on Sliwa …”guy really doesn’t know how how RCV works does heas @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone has rightly corrected me:
NYC only uses ranked choice for primaries and special elections.
https://www.vote.nyc/RankedChoiceVoting
New York City will use ranked choice voting for Primary and Special Elections for the offices of Mayor, Public Advocate, Comptroller, Borough President and City Council, due to an amendment in the City Charter approved by voters in 2019.
(and the actual mayoral election is a general election, so not a primary or a special election)
What RCV?
Pretty sure the general isn’t ranked choice
~~https://www.vote.nyc/RankedChoiceVoting~~
> New York City will use ranked choice voting for Primary and Special Elections for the offices of Mayor, Public Advocate, Comptroller, Borough President and City Council, due to an amendment in the City Charter approved by voters in 2019.as @prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone has rightly corrected me:
NYC only uses ranked choice for primaries and special elections.
https://www.vote.nyc/RankedChoiceVoting
New York City will use ranked choice voting for Primary and Special Elections for the offices of Mayor, Public Advocate, Comptroller, Borough President and City Council, due to an amendment in the City Charter approved by voters in 2019.
(and the actual mayoral election is a general election, so not a primary or a special election)
That says primary and special. I thought this was part of the November general ballot?
yup you’re right! i’ve updated all my comments. i misunderstood
Cunt
Bare knuckle politics.
Terrible.
The job of “politician” just attracts some really shitty people cos it’s one of those jobs that satisfies narcissists, control freaks, bullies, and people who think they know what’s best for everyone else.
News Nation is trash. You can watch
himhis brother discussing UFOs there. And it’s because he thinks it’s good for his relationship with the public.Edit: LOL I confused him with his brother. Whoops.
