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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netM to Main, home of the dope ass bear.@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 month ago

Comrades have you been keeping up with your theory reading?

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Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netM to Main, home of the dope ass bear.@hexbear.netEnglish · 1 month ago
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  • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I thought CHUDs loved 1984 because it is anti-communist? Not to read of course, but to point to and say “see, communism doesn’t work, even in fiction!”

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      “It’s over, commies. I have depicted you as the fascists and myself as the pervert!”

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      Fight Club too

      • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I think that’s just the movie, they like it because it involves fighting and toxic masculinity, they don’t realise the movie and the book say that they are bad things.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Grapes of Wrath is genuinely a great book

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      Grapes of Wrath, A People’s History and Gender Queer can all be helpful to comrades. I don’t know many of the rest.

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netOPM
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      Yep. It’s a glimpse into the past to let us in the present prepare for our near future

      • 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        Do we really need to wait that long to bury our Fox News-poisoned grandparents in a roadside ditch somewhere, though?

  • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    If these people could actually read they’d be pretty upset if they discovered Perenti.

    Also, listing “anti-war” as a reason it’s inspiring “radical violence” kinda gives the whole game away.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Also “anti authority” coming from the people who claim to be for “small government” lmao

  • purpleworm [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Conservatives turning on 1984 is among the most baffling shifts against a book that I can imagine short of them explicitly throwing out a book of the Bible.

    • LeninWeave [none/use name, any]@hexbear.net
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      Almost as embarrassing as leftists recommending it.

      • miz [any, any]@hexbear.net
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        The only people who misunderstand George Orwell’s 1984 are those that go around trying to imagine it has a leftist message. It is mistaken to imagine that children in the English-speaking world get his work drilled into them like a mantra because, somehow, genuine socialists managed to sneak his work past a censor that banishes the likes of Karl Marx and Malcolm X.

        The less complicated reading is the correct one: it’s an anti-communist book that the establishment pushes, and the right adores and cites constantly, because it is effective anti-communist propaganda.

        from https://redsails.org/on-orwell/

        • CommCat [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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          I also like Isaac Asimov’s dunk on 1984 and Orwell:

          https://www.newworker.org/ncptrory/1984.htm

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        I think Animal Farm and 1984 are worth recommending, if you’re willing to dig into the Trot/ML debates that heavily informed those two books.

        Absolute left anticommunism hours. The book Winston reads in 1984 describes all of the superstates as “Oligarchal Collectivism” for fuck’s sake, which is an obvious reference to Trotsky’s theory of “Bureaucratic Collectivism”.

    • blunder [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      explicitly throwing out a book of the Bible

      This is kind of a classic tradition tho

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        That’s why I said “explicit”. They certainly toss out more than just a book’s worth all the time, but the closest they get to being explicit about it is selectively ignoring the Old Testament because of Christ ushering in a “New Covenant”

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    You wouldn’t believe the depraved acts of violence the Lorax has inspired against patriots.

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      The trees can’t be harmed if the lorax is armed

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    If the lorax is armed the trees can’t be harmed

    • FedPosterman5000 [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      deleted by creator

      • IncensedCedar [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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        Absolute bars here

  • Owl [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Better attempt at a radical reading list than any liberal has put out, at least.

  • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    To be fair peoples history actually radicalized me when I read it in high school

    • Alaskaball [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netOPM
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      One of the few books on the list that actually grows class consciousness

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Fucking hell, how do you put The Lorax on there and not have a ‘are we the baddies?’ moment? Though for USians I suppose it’s always just ‘are we getting paid enough for being the baddies?’

    And even then, it’s not even accurate: “pro-violence?” How? The lorax never even threatens violence, meanwhile the onceler rolls up in this thing:

    Unless they’re trying to say the book implies a call to violence since talking is ineffective at preventing capital from destroying the planet phoenix-think

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      We desperately need a version of The Lorax where he’s just a straight-up revolutionary guerilla fighter

      JB-shining-aggro

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      • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        marx-guns-blazing I am the Guer-ax! I wreak for the trees, for the trees have no guns!

      • Pavlichenko_Fan_Club [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        The lorax in chhattisgarh

  • TheLastHero [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Johnny Got His Gun is pretty sick in all the right ways, highly recommended for my comrades if you’ve never heard if it.

    a couple of kickass passages

    It will be you. It will be you—you who urge us on to battle, you who incite us against ourselves, you who would have one cobbler kill another cobbler, you who would have one man who works kill another man who works, you who would have one human being who wants only to live kill another human being who wants only to live. Remember this. Remember this well you people who plan for war. Remember this you patriots, you fierce ones, you spawners of hate, you inventors of slogans. Remember this as you have never remembered anything else in your lives.

    Put the guns into our hands and we will use them. Give us the slogans and we will turn them into reality. Sing the battle hymns and we will take them up where you left off. Not one not ten not ten thousand not a million not ten millions not a hundred millions but a billion two billions of us all the people of the world we will have the slogans and we will have the hymns and we will have the guns and we will use them and we will live. Make no mistake of it we will live. We will be alive and we will walk and talk and eat and sing and laugh and feel and love and bear our children in tranquility and security in decency in peace. You plan the wars, you masters of men, plan the wars and point the way and we will point the gun.

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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      Most who’ve heard of it probably know it because of the video for One by Metallica.

      • Biggay [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        I read it in highschool for that reason, I think it was really the first and maybe last horror book I ever read, shit was real dark and depressing and i dont even really remember much of it because of that.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Pro-anti-fascism

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      Seriously, can’t just call it anti-pro-fascism?

      • irelephant [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Fascism pro max.

    • Moonstruck_Theorist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      All ideologies moving forward can only be named to be anti- or pro- an existing ideology. It’s the way it has to be.

    • alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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      At some point, they’re gonna try to ban people from playing the Wolfenstein games, because “political violence is never the solution to a disagreement! You can disagree with Nazis without needing to kill them!”

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        Not far fetched at all considering the Twitter backlash from certain people over the most recent game. Apparently they managed to miss the 30-year history of this series and how it was always about killing Nazis.

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          Wait, really? People got mad that the objective of the latest Wolfenstein game is to kill Nazis?! That’s like… basically all Wolfenstein ever was! Except, y’know, when the first one came out, a majority of Americans thought the Nazis were bad, that has shifted, I can believe if the Wolfenstein universe didn’t exist yet, and the original Wolfenstein came out today, it’d trigger a social media meltdown by mask-off “conservative” fascists and “marketplace of ideas” libs alike. The point of a “kill Nazis” game is to have a bad guy that absolutely everyone can agree is irredeemably evil and therefore not offensive to depict as such…

          Yeep. Getting off Twitter when You-Know-Who bought it was a good decision on my part. By all accounts, that place is crank central.

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            yarly

            I found this article documenting some examples of the response their #NoMoreNazis tweet got: https://www.mic.com/articles/185045/wolfenstein-ii-nazi-killing-backlash-reddit-twitter-kotakuinaction

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              Oh, wow, that is older than I thought. Assumed there’d been another new Wolfenstein game and new outrage, I don’t follow gaming news much. Also, it’s a bit alarming that in 2017 we were already seeing Americans stop believing that, y’know, Nazis are bad.

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                I haven’t really kept up with the Wolfenstein games, but that’s still the most recent one other than a couple of spinoffs in 2019.

                That was around the time you started seeing the talking point that ackshually, we need to let the fascists speak because of freeze-peach and even just straight up whitewashing fascism (Richard Spencer on CNN, articles saying the new kind of fascist was far nicer than the old kind, etc.).

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                  Yeah… looking back, we really should have known then that the US was starting down the path to fascism. And us tankies did. But all the liberals, in and out of the US, called us crazy fearmongerers calling anyone we don’t like a Nazi.

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    I love that they have 7 and 8 in a tie, leaning hard into pretending they have a numerical basis for this

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    Reasons: Anti-War

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      Reasons: Anti-Consumerism

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    Pro-Environment

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