I play only games that the author calls “rules lite”, and i think they are missing the point entirely. I would call the lighter games “collaborative games” and call the more D&D-like “pre-structured games”.
We dont play these games because they are simpler (though they are), more straightforward (true), or easier to teach new players (also true). Instead we prefer them to D&D because they are more fun (for us).
It’s not about having fewer rules. It’s about having rules that each make the game more fun or exciting. Most D&D groups houserule the system so much that they arent using half of the game’s mechanics, and the other half are heavily modified. The resulting game hardly resembles the one described in the source book, and ends up being slow, tedious, and limiting.
I’d rather play a game that rewards you for learning the actual rules, a game whose mechanics are cohesive, additive, and fit the vibe at the table. I want mechanics that help me be more creative, and help the table create a better and more compelling collaborative story.
D&D is also designed for 4-6 hour sessions. My group does weekly 2 hour sessions, so 5e combat can last weeks. By the third session of combat the players are starting to forget the stakes of the fight.
The games i’m talking about are those like Blades in the Dark, Dungeon World, The Sprawl, Armor Astir, etc. Any serious DM should at least read Dungeon World and Blades in the Dark to get an idea of the philosophy behind these more collaborative games.
My group recently did a campaign of the Avatar the Last Airbender RPG and while it wasn’t my favorite, it wasn’t bad. I liked the system much more than 5e.
I’m certainly beyond the point in getting any satisfaction in ‘defeating complex rules’ to find clever ways to do well. I prefer games that slide into action and drama quickly!
My group does weekly 2 hour sessions, so 5e combat can last weeks. By the third session of combat the players are starting to forget the stakes of the fight.
I’ve had similar experiences with 2 hour sessions in both D&D and Cyberpunk RED. I’ve started aiming to have fights done in one session, usually with the opponents having some win/lose condition that will end the fight logically.
For my next campaign, I think I’ll give Blades in the Dark a shot. I also want to try Ten Candles, but I hear that can be tough.
Ten Candles is an amazing game, but it is a one-shot, not for campaigns. Everyone dies at the end of the game. Period. It is the journey toward that inevitable end when everything goes dark that makes it so good.
I play only games that the author calls “rules lite”, and i think they are missing the point entirely. I would call the lighter games “collaborative games” and call the more D&D-like “pre-structured games”.
We dont play these games because they are simpler (though they are), more straightforward (true), or easier to teach new players (also true). Instead we prefer them to D&D because they are more fun (for us).
It’s not about having fewer rules. It’s about having rules that each make the game more fun or exciting. Most D&D groups houserule the system so much that they arent using half of the game’s mechanics, and the other half are heavily modified. The resulting game hardly resembles the one described in the source book, and ends up being slow, tedious, and limiting.
I’d rather play a game that rewards you for learning the actual rules, a game whose mechanics are cohesive, additive, and fit the vibe at the table. I want mechanics that help me be more creative, and help the table create a better and more compelling collaborative story.
D&D is also designed for 4-6 hour sessions. My group does weekly 2 hour sessions, so 5e combat can last weeks. By the third session of combat the players are starting to forget the stakes of the fight.
The games i’m talking about are those like Blades in the Dark, Dungeon World, The Sprawl, Armor Astir, etc. Any serious DM should at least read Dungeon World and Blades in the Dark to get an idea of the philosophy behind these more collaborative games.
My group recently did a campaign of the Avatar the Last Airbender RPG and while it wasn’t my favorite, it wasn’t bad. I liked the system much more than 5e.
I’m certainly beyond the point in getting any satisfaction in ‘defeating complex rules’ to find clever ways to do well. I prefer games that slide into action and drama quickly!
I’ve had similar experiences with 2 hour sessions in both D&D and Cyberpunk RED. I’ve started aiming to have fights done in one session, usually with the opponents having some win/lose condition that will end the fight logically.
For my next campaign, I think I’ll give Blades in the Dark a shot. I also want to try Ten Candles, but I hear that can be tough.
Ten Candles is an amazing game, but it is a one-shot, not for campaigns. Everyone dies at the end of the game. Period. It is the journey toward that inevitable end when everything goes dark that makes it so good.