It’s not far-right vs far-left, it’s authoritarian vs libertarian. Conservatives and tankies are both on the authoritarian side and for someone who cares more about personal freedom than economics they’re way more similar than anarchists & tankies or right-libertarians & conservatives from your perspective.
It doesn’t even have to be the political compass, 8values or 9axes works just as well with what I’m saying, which is that tankies are conservatives are very similar in a lot of ways once you stop considering economics, which is only one factor.
Either one of 2, 8 or 9 axes is far better than a single “left/right” spectrum.
In order for your explanations to have any kind of substance, could you list all the similarities between tankies and conservatives, that are not also traits of libertarians, you have in mind?
I think it’s worth mentioning both. Especially when bots and bad actors are trying to influence people on both sides of the aisle.
Many of the far-left views by bad actors getting pushed are pro-authoritarian, accelerationists. They want people on the left side of the aisle to be totally checked out of politics and they want to not change anything to help people in our current system.
Even though you can enact every single policy position they claim to care about inside of our current system, the bad actors do not care as they are not trying to help people.
I care what is being talked about if it’s stopping people from engaging in politics at all. Universal Basic Income, Universal Healthcare, and public housing for instance are three policy issues that can be tackled right now at the state level in blue states. People don’t need to be promoting a pro-collapse message, which could negatively impact millions of lives in the short and long run.
These bots and bad actors have been influencing people mostly behind the scenes. I don’t want the pendulum to swing back to the left, only to have a bunch of pro-authoritarians “on the left” to have radicalized a generation of young people believing they can’t accomplish their goals democratically. I want democracy, representation, and I want progressive policy that helps people.
The far-right bots are pushing their message to low information people online, trying to get those people to be sympathetic to their talking points or to check out from politics as well.
Well, that’s appalling and I wholly condemn it and it’s my bad for not doing the due diligence of figuring out who was behind the community before posting. It still doesn’t excuse apologizing for authoritarianism on the other side of the aisle.
Libs talking about the far-right: “BuT WhaT AboUt The FaR LeFt?”
It’s not far-right vs far-left, it’s authoritarian vs libertarian. Conservatives and tankies are both on the authoritarian side and for someone who cares more about personal freedom than economics they’re way more similar than anarchists & tankies or right-libertarians & conservatives from your perspective.
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It doesn’t even have to be the political compass, 8values or 9axes works just as well with what I’m saying, which is that tankies are conservatives are very similar in a lot of ways once you stop considering economics, which is only one factor.
Either one of 2, 8 or 9 axes is far better than a single “left/right” spectrum.
In order for your explanations to have any kind of substance, could you list all the similarities between tankies and conservatives, that are not also traits of libertarians, you have in mind?
Ah, before he can do that, you gotta respond to your initial claims
but also here you go, a little game no one has yet been able to solve. can you spot who’s tankie and who’s conservative?
I think it’s worth mentioning both. Especially when bots and bad actors are trying to influence people on both sides of the aisle.
Many of the far-left views by bad actors getting pushed are pro-authoritarian, accelerationists. They want people on the left side of the aisle to be totally checked out of politics and they want to not change anything to help people in our current system.
Even though you can enact every single policy position they claim to care about inside of our current system, the bad actors do not care as they are not trying to help people.
I care what is being talked about if it’s stopping people from engaging in politics at all. Universal Basic Income, Universal Healthcare, and public housing for instance are three policy issues that can be tackled right now at the state level in blue states. People don’t need to be promoting a pro-collapse message, which could negatively impact millions of lives in the short and long run.
These bots and bad actors have been influencing people mostly behind the scenes. I don’t want the pendulum to swing back to the left, only to have a bunch of pro-authoritarians “on the left” to have radicalized a generation of young people believing they can’t accomplish their goals democratically. I want democracy, representation, and I want progressive policy that helps people.
The far-right bots are pushing their message to low information people online, trying to get those people to be sympathetic to their talking points or to check out from politics as well.
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Tankies are just far-right for the other geopolitical camp. This isn’t the take you think it is. I’d be considered far-left by the libs.
Ah yeah nothing screams “far left” like posting in a comm lead by a genocide propagandist
Well, that’s appalling and I wholly condemn it and it’s my bad for not doing the due diligence of figuring out who was behind the community before posting. It still doesn’t excuse apologizing for authoritarianism on the other side of the aisle.