I just watched a pretty decent video about attack on titan from Just Write explaining it’s connections to the far right. Almost all of what it talked about was the later seasons that expand on the world or the life of the author. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwCCs6yTpPY

But like, I stopped watching a couple of episodes in because the vibes were fucking stinky man. I sniffed that shit right out. I don’t remember specific examples because this was a long time ago but the way characters interacted, the way the military was glorified, the way society was structured, the uncritical and simple perspective on the titans coupled with the personal hatred towards them. I don’t really remember though.

Why don’t people talk about vibes more? Like, everyone gets all surprised when I said that I stopped watching SAO after the first episode and concluded that it was one of the worst things I’d ever seen. Why does nobody talk about the vibes? I feel like they should be more obvious to people.

Also so many of the shows, esp shonen, that weebs obsess have the overarching subtext of, “this is how good shonen are supposed to act, and if you don’t act this way don’t complain when you fail.” Like, while they are living with their parents because the rents to damn high to move out. Like do you not see the mangaka taking the absolute piss out of you?

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  • machiabelly [she/her]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
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    5 years ago

    I guess more what I mean is that people seem to focus so much more on higher order plot when talking about things. It’s rarely like, this author thinks about relationships this way and frames scenes in this way that is similar to how fascists interact with people and frame situations. I just wish that people were willing to take more subjective information as seriously as more objective information. You can’t answer all of life’s questions without both of them but people talk about subjective evidence like it is less than.

    Few people seem to talk about how differently fascists interact and think about things than other people. It makes it super easy to spot once you understand it. But videos like this almost always try and prove their points with more “concrete” evidence, such as plot, which is arguably more abstracted from the main point than relationship, framing, language, and other more subjective ideas.

    Like, as soon as someone writes a show about the conflict between nations dominated by institutions that value only strength, and ignore or deride the people who can’t participate in those institutions, they’ve already welcomed the fash into their home. Add in glorifying violence rather than seeing it as a means to an end and characters that operate within tight gender roles and it stops mattering if the author was fash or not, because the right already have their feet up on your coffee table like they own the place.

    • garbology [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      5 years ago

      videos like this almost always try and prove their points with more “concrete” evidence, such as plot, which is arguably more abstracted from the main point than relationship, framing, language, and other more subjective ideas.

      Ah, this is an excellent point. Yeah, those smaller mood-setting elements are also very important when analyzing media. I agree, a lot of people forget that the setting of a show isn’t something that the creator has to work around when making their story, but something they also invented in service of the kind of story they wanted to tell.

      The Thermian Argument is very insidious, so people don’t notice that the fashy communitty in AOT doesn’t have to “invent an external existential threat irreconcilably different from them that requires selfless heroism, unthinking loyalty, and eternal war”, because the author provides it as a premise. Very convenient!