Thousands of carnists suddenly care about animal rights when a small group of basement-dwelling nazis tell them a socialist used a shock collar on a dog once and apparently that’s news
to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.
The suffering of something that people aren’t very familiar with seems distant. The suffering of something that people are very familiar with seems immediate. You know we’re kind of fucked in the hearts and minds department if we can’t wrap our heads around the very basic contradiction of “I eat meat but don’t like seeing a dog get hurt” that the vast, vast, vast majority of people live with.
It is a contradiction for people to claim to be upset about animal abuse but only care when it’s pets. They’re not upset about animal abuse, they’re upset about pet abuse. That’s just a logical conclusion from a set of facts, you don’t even need to be vegan to see it.
to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.
It is in fact “a contradiction” for these same people to claim that it’s animal abuse that bothers them.
i wouldn’t engage with the person you responded to. they had their feelings hurt by a vegan once and now they refresh search terms adjacent to veganism to find people to play pedantics with. all you’ll get are terse answers which latch onto the smallest, poorest phrasing in your argument. it’s a personal vendetta.
you have a tendency to appear days late to a conversation, in deep comment chains, on posts unrelated to veganism, with terse, pedantic remarks about semantics. what i said is exactly what it looks like you are doing, and ‘for fun’ by your own admission. the term for this is ‘trolling’.
i think a lot of people probably say “animal abuse” when they meant the more specific case and it takes a place like this for the difference to matter. might even be “animal abuse” statutorily but only ever applied to pets and guide dogs.
Are we really trying to get off on the technicality that it doesn’t count as abuse if the animal has already been murdered? Eating animal products is participation in systemic animal abuse on a vast and infinitely cruel scale. It’s a contradiction in the same way it would be a contradiction to say “I don’t like pedophiles but I’m fine with child trafficking.”
There is no such thing as ethical consumption of animal products, by the way.
Thousands of carnists suddenly care about animal rights when a small group of basement-dwelling nazis tell them a socialist used a shock collar on a dog once and apparently that’s news
“I’m really passionate about animal welfare!” I proudly declare between bites of my meat lover’s pizza.
to the extent that some normies are getting swept up in the smear campaign because they’ve never heard of LSF or destiny, they’re caring about a pet and the violation of the owner’s social obligation to his pet, rather than animal rights nebulously. No idea why that shit rated a forbes article.
I’m pretty sure that most of these people don’t really care about anything beyond stirring the shit
The suffering of something that people aren’t very familiar with seems distant. The suffering of something that people are very familiar with seems immediate. You know we’re kind of fucked in the hearts and minds department if we can’t wrap our heads around the very basic contradiction of “I eat meat but don’t like seeing a dog get hurt” that the vast, vast, vast majority of people live with.
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Yes it is.
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It is a contradiction for people to claim to be upset about animal abuse but only care when it’s pets. They’re not upset about animal abuse, they’re upset about pet abuse. That’s just a logical conclusion from a set of facts, you don’t even need to be vegan to see it.
It’s like @Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net said in this thread.
It is in fact “a contradiction” for these same people to claim that it’s animal abuse that bothers them.
i wouldn’t engage with the person you responded to. they had their feelings hurt by a vegan once and now they refresh search terms adjacent to veganism to find people to play pedantics with. all you’ll get are terse answers which latch onto the smallest, poorest phrasing in your argument. it’s a personal vendetta.
What a strange type of person.
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you have a tendency to appear days late to a conversation, in deep comment chains, on posts unrelated to veganism, with terse, pedantic remarks about semantics. what i said is exactly what it looks like you are doing, and ‘for fun’ by your own admission. the term for this is ‘trolling’.
https://hexbear.net/modlog?userId=64202
I’m not sure they are, a quick look at the modlog seems to support what they said.
i think a lot of people probably say “animal abuse” when they meant the more specific case and it takes a place like this for the difference to matter. might even be “animal abuse” statutorily but only ever applied to pets and guide dogs.
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Are we really trying to get off on the technicality that it doesn’t count as abuse if the animal has already been murdered? Eating animal products is participation in systemic animal abuse on a vast and infinitely cruel scale. It’s a contradiction in the same way it would be a contradiction to say “I don’t like pedophiles but I’m fine with child trafficking.”
There is no such thing as ethical consumption of animal products, by the way.
debatably heirlooms. My grandpa’s coat could last a long time if we take care of it and there’s no justice for the animals in destroying it.
also theft, although that’s deliberately unsustainable and the idea would be a campaign to make them unprofitable to sell and inconvenient to buy.
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Working with that premise, it’s an obvious contradiction to eat factory farmed meat (which is almost all meat).
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Huh you were already banned from here, how’d you get back in?
Anyways, let’s rectify that
#notallcarnists
Fuck them dogs 10000 volts on the canid world
MAKE WIRES OUT OF DOGS!!! THIRTY MILLION WATT POWERLINE OUT OF CANINES!!!