Yeah when doorbells sell your facial recognition to the USG just because you walked by someone’s house, when your wifi password is stored by Google or Microsoft or Apple and sold for profit, when every company under the sun has been breached with no financial or legal repercussion, when everyone is complicit at selling your information while censoring your speech based on Trump’s whims, who cares about privacy? China privacy fears? If China wanted your information, they would just buy it from the American companies you “trust” who are selling it on the open market.
When American cars are being recalled because the engines are dying under 20k miles (Chevy V8) and $50k “rugged” vehicles come with plastic oil pans (Ford Bronco), and nobody domestic makes reasonably sized sedans any more, and our only good electric vehicle maker turned out to be run by a fascist, why would you ever buy an American vehicle?
Sounds like the pragmatic thing is to buy a Chinese electric vehicle at half the price of an American vehicle and it will last twice as long. So now the narrative begins to keep them banned, just like they did to Tiktok and Huawei phones.
There is a national law called in China called PIPL, modeled after the GDPR, that limits what companies can do with the private data collected about individuals.
Outside of California, not much exists in the USA to protect privacy.
I’m not going to pretend that either country is not authoritarian. But a lot of the narrative about China is just propaganda. Here at least I can bicycle safely to work, take an electric car if I need a taxi, not worry about medical bankruptcy from a hospital stay, and not be deported because we are brown or worry that my kids will get shot at school.
Ask me ten years ago and this was a different answer. But conditions change (in both countries), we must adapt, so here we are.
Yeah when doorbells sell your facial recognition to the USG just because you walked by someone’s house, when your wifi password is stored by Google or Microsoft or Apple and sold for profit, when every company under the sun has been breached with no financial or legal repercussion, when everyone is complicit at selling your information while censoring your speech based on Trump’s whims, who cares about privacy? China privacy fears? If China wanted your information, they would just buy it from the American companies you “trust” who are selling it on the open market.
When American cars are being recalled because the engines are dying under 20k miles (Chevy V8) and $50k “rugged” vehicles come with plastic oil pans (Ford Bronco), and nobody domestic makes reasonably sized sedans any more, and our only good electric vehicle maker turned out to be run by a fascist, why would you ever buy an American vehicle?
Sounds like the pragmatic thing is to buy a Chinese electric vehicle at half the price of an American vehicle and it will last twice as long. So now the narrative begins to keep them banned, just like they did to Tiktok and Huawei phones.
You’re delusional if you think the US and China are similar on privacy. Even if the US is very quickly headed in that direction.
Maybe my perspective is skewed because I live in Beijing and spent most of my life in the USA, but I think the US is worse on privacy.
Having never been to china, can you tell me why you think the privacy is worse here?
There is a national law called in China called PIPL, modeled after the GDPR, that limits what companies can do with the private data collected about individuals.
Outside of California, not much exists in the USA to protect privacy.
I’m not going to pretend that either country is not authoritarian. But a lot of the narrative about China is just propaganda. Here at least I can bicycle safely to work, take an electric car if I need a taxi, not worry about medical bankruptcy from a hospital stay, and not be deported because we are brown or worry that my kids will get shot at school.
Ask me ten years ago and this was a different answer. But conditions change (in both countries), we must adapt, so here we are.