Anyone else getting these donation ads? Was it just shoved onto an update by the Lemmy devs, or is this coming from the instance admins? It doesn’t seem to show on clean browser sessions to lemmy.ca
This is a built-in ad by the devs.
Personally I’m not a fan of their beliefs and stances hence why I am publicly supporting and advocating for the development of Piefed.
I am usually very ad-aversant because i don’t consent to being randomly pushed to feeling like i need a product.
But this interests me, therefore I’m consent. Can you advertise piefed in a way that makes me want to change from lemmy?
Can you advertise piefed in a way that makes me want to change from lemmy
It’s completely interoperable with Lemmy (hence you seeing the comment you just replied to), but it’s not developed by tankies, it has better mod tools, better migration in the case a community or instance goes down, and it seems to be being developed at a more rapid pace.
What app do you use with it?
What got me hooked on lemmy was wefwef/voyager which is basically a reddit Apollo clone.
https://piefed.social/community/fediverse/wiki/piefed-app
Voyager supports Piefed
It also supports multiple accounts; Piefed here i come!
Mbin is also an alternative. More transparency: https://joinmbin.org/servers
PieFed slants too much on the moderator side while simplifying the user experience to the point that you can’t even easily work with the modlog.
you can’t even easily work with the modlog.
What is the issue with the modlog?
Now compare it to every other implementation of the modlog.
It actually has filters now because of an update last month, but it’s still not readily accessible if you don’t know the URL while most implementations provide links to it, from the home page and filtered within each community page. Even if it gets addressed, it shows that the priorities lie more on the side of creating a Reddit clone than allowing essential access to transparency.
I’m curious, as someone who’s mostly only looked from the outside, what “slants too much on the moderator side” means.
I’m referring to transparency features being like seeing who’s downvoting and upvoting comments or easy and relevant access to the modlog and comments getting removed. Piefed little effort to making the modlog transparent and hides upvoting and downvoting completely (they basically had to make up a new concern for it, “voting privacy”, but its an excuse that allows for the manipulation of the voting system and lack of accountability for already pseudonymous accounts) while also implementing a reputation system that is asking to be gamed. It puts more responsibility and power onto mods, admins, and devs, and it’s the second one that’s going to be more frequently exercised over conversations.
Basically, does it allow users to police themselves and the content they want to see, or does it give it to the people behind the curtains?
they basically had to make up a new concern for it, “voting privacy”, but its an excuse that allows for the manipulation of the voting system and lack of accountability for already pseudonymous accounts
The “private voting” system has been removed months ago. Nowadays Piefed user can either decide to federate their votes (which can then been seen by lemvotes or other tools) or keep them local
seeing who’s downvoting and upvoting comments
Lemmy doesn’t give you this either, though? (Unless you use a service like lemvotes, which I think does it by having admin access.) So how is it different?
Me? I don’t. I’m still on Lemmy because I haven’t quite managed to work up the energy for the switch, and I’m rather tied to this account.
I believe some Lemmy apps have added additional support for Piefed, but I don’t know which. Tbh I do most of my browsing on a computer in a web browser anyway.
With a quick Google search, I found Mlem, Interstellar, and possibly Voyager already has support. But I can’t vouch for any of that personally.
Can’t say I have any issue with open source devs putting a request for donations inside the very apps they make tbh. Seems like a reasonable thing to do personally.
I don’t mind a request for support in principle, and I regularly donate to other similar projects.
It’s the implementation that will ultimately make the request succeed or fail. As in how often is it shown and in what manner.
This, that’s sort of why I am asking.
There should be conditional and optional consent given to the host to decide whether to allow it or not to show up. They may also be interested in placing their own donation petitions using the same functionality.
This. As long as it’s non intrusive, and can be disabled/customised on the instance. Many instances would like a way to have funding support from their communities, and I think it’s good will to allow the developers to have some.
It’s built into lemmy, you’ll see it once per year (tracked on your user row in the db)
It appears to be the devs themselves; which continues to track with Dessalines being a piece of garbage.
I have to admit, even though I appreciate Lemmy, my impression of the devs or the lemmy.ml instance is not the best.
About a month before lemm.ee went offline there was a huge drama about the devs asking various instance admins to advertise their need for donations. Wild that they are already doing this again
“Our funds” Their server. As always ML is a parasite of the proletariat.
I don’t have to agree with a developer’s politics to use their software or even support it. as long as it doesn’t go towards self-destructive or otherwise bad behavior. When Desalines and Nutomic demanded that we must accept our donations, go towards that. They childishly cut themselves off from a large number of possible donations.
If they want to run such advertisements on their own Instance, that’s their own prerogative and more power to them. If they are pushing this on the other people’s instances, especially without them opting in. That’s so on brand, on many fronts for ML. That it is hilarious.
adblocker will fix it
