Anyone else getting these donation ads? Was it just shoved onto an update by the Lemmy devs, or is this coming from the instance admins? It doesn’t seem to show on clean browser sessions to lemmy.ca

  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    3·
    5 days ago

    What app do you use with it?

    What got me hooked on lemmy was wefwef/voyager which is basically a reddit Apollo clone.

        • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.caOPEnglish
          1·
          7 hours ago

          Now compare it to every other implementation of the modlog.

          It actually has filters now because of an update last month, but it’s still not readily accessible if you don’t know the URL while most implementations provide links to it, from the home page and filtered within each community page. Even if it gets addressed, it shows that the priorities lie more on the side of creating a Reddit clone than allowing essential access to transparency.

      • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        I’m curious, as someone who’s mostly only looked from the outside, what “slants too much on the moderator side” means.

        • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.caOPEnglish
          2·
          2 days ago

          I’m referring to transparency features being like seeing who’s downvoting and upvoting comments or easy and relevant access to the modlog and comments getting removed. Piefed little effort to making the modlog transparent and hides upvoting and downvoting completely (they basically had to make up a new concern for it, “voting privacy”, but its an excuse that allows for the manipulation of the voting system and lack of accountability for already pseudonymous accounts) while also implementing a reputation system that is asking to be gamed. It puts more responsibility and power onto mods, admins, and devs, and it’s the second one that’s going to be more frequently exercised over conversations.

          Basically, does it allow users to police themselves and the content they want to see, or does it give it to the people behind the curtains?

          • Blaze (he/him)@lemmy.zipEnglish
            1·
            10 hours ago

            they basically had to make up a new concern for it, “voting privacy”, but its an excuse that allows for the manipulation of the voting system and lack of accountability for already pseudonymous accounts

            The “private voting” system has been removed months ago. Nowadays Piefed user can either decide to federate their votes (which can then been seen by lemvotes or other tools) or keep them local

            • TheObviousSolution@lemmy.caOPEnglish
              1·
              7 hours ago

              Doesn’t matter, the philosophy is still there. I will never expect them to be as transparent as Mbin, who provides voting transparency thus proving that the whole concept of voting privacy is bust and a power play. There is no epidemic of people abusing voting transparency that the “voting privacy” advocates might have argued, never mind that it is also false sense of security when it is completely visible to the server instance admins.

              • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
                1·
                7 hours ago

                Piefed’s level of voting transparency is little different to Lemmys now, except for Piefed defederating from lemvotes. I was also present during the discussions about it - and Rimu was very open about why he initially didn’t like public voting. He changed it because of public pressure to do so. That’s not an absence of transparency.

                In any case, even if piefed.social is poor for this. That wouldn’t mean that piefed.zip or piefed.ca would have to follow the same instance policies.

          • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            seeing who’s downvoting and upvoting comments

            Lemmy doesn’t give you this either, though? (Unless you use a service like lemvotes, which I think does it by having admin access.) So how is it different?

    • Zagorath@aussie.zoneEnglish
      2·
      5 days ago

      Me? I don’t. I’m still on Lemmy because I haven’t quite managed to work up the energy for the switch, and I’m rather tied to this account.

      I believe some Lemmy apps have added additional support for Piefed, but I don’t know which. Tbh I do most of my browsing on a computer in a web browser anyway.

      With a quick Google search, I found Mlem, Interstellar, and possibly Voyager already has support. But I can’t vouch for any of that personally.