I tried SimpleX but the UX is still lacking. Even worse, as I’ve recently learned, apparently the creator is an antivax conspiracy theorist maga/trump supporter. I cannot support that.
Maybe you need to be a little crazy to write software like that. But I agree, it is concerning because if they decide to slip in some bullshit into their build that aligns with their politics e.g an exploit to delete all files of a person that makes a joke they don’t approve of in their chat or to upload them to a server of their choice, or any other bullshit, then you’re fucked.
But when it comes to instant messaging where the purpose is to chat privately I’d prefer a developer that hates big government and the ability to chat with their friends about hate without any form of censorship, encryption goes both ways and is by definition non political. Systems are, methods of moderation is, but with a chat app it’s not about moderation it’s about secure communication.
Trump/maga is pro-big government, regardless of what they pretend they are, and more importantly they’re pro-making my friends dead. When the topic is sensitive communications that could lead to such a scenario, that association is very hard to ignore.
Fascist thugs/ICE want to keep their group chats private for fear that the horrible things they might be sharing are reported/doxed/moderated
Gay/Trans people are worried of being outed/beaten up/killed
Pedos are worried of being caught with their disgusting material
Sex workers are worried of stalkers/police/doxing
Organised criminals need a way to organise crime securely (I don’t know 🤷♂️)
Journalists need secure communication for their client safety and their own
Secure communication is not political.
Instead of throwing away the idea behind simplex I would say that building multiple clients, that use the same standard will make it more attractive. I haven’t found a better solution yet than simplex for distributed secure communication, and it would be a shame to let it go to waste.
Tor for example was built by the US government but that didn’t stop Snowden from using it.
I definitely agree that secure communication is not political, but my concern is more about that person’s ability to break the security or implement backdoors. I’m okay with simplex as a concept (warts and all), but I’d need a different client or at least someone else packaging the software so that they can check the commits before building. For most other people’s beliefs I’m not overly concerned with the maintainers trying to maliciously impose them, but people in the maga crowd have completely lost touch with reality, and giving someone like that the sole power to make a git commit and push a client update that can get people killed makes me too nervous long-term. We’ve seen them literally kill each other for not being hateful enough, and this is a problem that’s only getting worse.
Totally! f-droid has the gold standard on this and tor was also passed on to the EFF giving it more credibility in the enemies of three letter agencies.
Sadly journalists have chosen Signal as their preferred communication tool. Denying more secure and distributed tools a way forward.
Well good thing we have federation because I moved over to piefed (I was on lemmy.world and not on the .ml instance too). Though the move was influenced more on the features.
I tried SimpleX but the UX is still lacking. Even worse, as I’ve recently learned, apparently the creator is an antivax conspiracy theorist maga/trump supporter. I cannot support that.
Maybe you need to be a little crazy to write software like that. But I agree, it is concerning because if they decide to slip in some bullshit into their build that aligns with their politics e.g an exploit to delete all files of a person that makes a joke they don’t approve of in their chat or to upload them to a server of their choice, or any other bullshit, then you’re fucked.
I prefer a conspiracy theorist than a billionaire.
The Lemmy devs happen to have pretty extreme opinions too iirc
I too would prefer a conspiracy theorist over a billionaire.
What I cannot do, because it goes against my ethics, is support a trump/maga nutjob.
Lemmy devs, also on the complete opposite end of maga wackos, are the reason I dropped lemmy and jerboa and moved to piefed/voyager.
We don’t have to support weirdos.
For social media yes definitely.
But when it comes to instant messaging where the purpose is to chat privately I’d prefer a developer that hates big government and the ability to chat with their friends about hate without any form of censorship, encryption goes both ways and is by definition non political. Systems are, methods of moderation is, but with a chat app it’s not about moderation it’s about secure communication.
Trump/maga is pro-big government, regardless of what they pretend they are, and more importantly they’re pro-making my friends dead. When the topic is sensitive communications that could lead to such a scenario, that association is very hard to ignore.
Exactly;
Secure communication is not political.
Instead of throwing away the idea behind simplex I would say that building multiple clients, that use the same standard will make it more attractive. I haven’t found a better solution yet than simplex for distributed secure communication, and it would be a shame to let it go to waste.
Tor for example was built by the US government but that didn’t stop Snowden from using it.
I definitely agree that secure communication is not political, but my concern is more about that person’s ability to break the security or implement backdoors. I’m okay with simplex as a concept (warts and all), but I’d need a different client or at least someone else packaging the software so that they can check the commits before building. For most other people’s beliefs I’m not overly concerned with the maintainers trying to maliciously impose them, but people in the maga crowd have completely lost touch with reality, and giving someone like that the sole power to make a git commit and push a client update that can get people killed makes me too nervous long-term. We’ve seen them literally kill each other for not being hateful enough, and this is a problem that’s only getting worse.
Totally! f-droid has the gold standard on this and tor was also passed on to the EFF giving it more credibility in the enemies of three letter agencies.
Sadly journalists have chosen Signal as their preferred communication tool. Denying more secure and distributed tools a way forward.
Well good thing we have federation because I moved over to piefed (I was on lemmy.world and not on the .ml instance too). Though the move was influenced more on the features.