I don’t know that I think anyone should be held accountable for their actions, but I’m just trying to engage with your view. If the idea is that people who understand right from wrong should be held accountable then surely all people should be held to the same standard. Barring developmental disorders, 4-year-olds already understand right from wrong, so why should they be treated differently?
I cannot wrap my head around how people don’t think anyone should be accountable for their own actions?? I was raised in the 1970s and 1980s and accountability was huge. Even as kids we knew when we fucked up and we straightened out damn quick.
I’m pretty sure this lack of accountability mindset has come about in more recent decades, thanks to such heinous precedents set by the likes of Casey Anthony & OJ Simpson. People can literally get away with murder nowadays even when clearly guilty.
There’s no such thing as accountability anymore. Lies & deception & narcissism & psychopathy are the magic recipe for skating through the world blameless of all your wrongdoings.
Way to not answer the legitimate question. How about you take some accountability for your own faulty logic and answer the question? Should we imprison four year olds, since they know the difference between right and wrong? Maybe the ‘huge’ accountability they thought in the seventies and eighties wasn’t so huge after all.
You know as well as anyone else that 4-year-olds are still learning about everything, including still learning the difference between right & wrong. Now you please kindly go get a life and stop interacting with me, you dim-witted buffoon.
I suspected that would need explaining, but I didn’t want to go off on a tangent about my beliefs.
I don’t think free will exists. Setting aside what I’d like to believe about souls, the only thing I have evidence for is that we’re nothing but the chemical reactions happening within our bodies. Everything about who and what we are is determined by environmental factors that no one has any control over. You can’t choose how kind or intelligent you are any more than you can choose to fly.
People who do bad things need to be stopped in only order to prevent further harm. If we can change them or negotiate with them so that they won’t harm people anymore, they should be free to live in society, especially if they’re able to make reparations to their victims. If they can’t be healed or reasoned with then they’ll have to stay in prison indefinitely, but as a necessity, not as a punishment.
Imagine a rabid dog kills a child. The dog can’t choose whether it’s a good boy or a monster; it just is what it is. You can’t bring the child back to life or improve the dog’s behavior by beating it, so what’s the point?
Oh so is THAT why everyone behaves so sociopathically these days? Because your minds are not living in the real world? You believe that your bodies are detached from your free will therefore all the hideous harmful illegal things you do are not your fault? Well that’s what prison is for. To keep people like you locked away from the rest of us who know how to obey the law. I loathe coexisting with you psychotic people.
I don’t know that I think anyone should be held accountable for their actions, but I’m just trying to engage with your view. If the idea is that people who understand right from wrong should be held accountable then surely all people should be held to the same standard. Barring developmental disorders, 4-year-olds already understand right from wrong, so why should they be treated differently?
I cannot wrap my head around how people don’t think anyone should be accountable for their own actions?? I was raised in the 1970s and 1980s and accountability was huge. Even as kids we knew when we fucked up and we straightened out damn quick.
I’m pretty sure this lack of accountability mindset has come about in more recent decades, thanks to such heinous precedents set by the likes of Casey Anthony & OJ Simpson. People can literally get away with murder nowadays even when clearly guilty.
There’s no such thing as accountability anymore. Lies & deception & narcissism & psychopathy are the magic recipe for skating through the world blameless of all your wrongdoings.
Way to not answer the legitimate question. How about you take some accountability for your own faulty logic and answer the question? Should we imprison four year olds, since they know the difference between right and wrong? Maybe the ‘huge’ accountability they thought in the seventies and eighties wasn’t so huge after all.
You know as well as anyone else that 4-year-olds are still learning about everything, including still learning the difference between right & wrong. Now you please kindly go get a life and stop interacting with me, you dim-witted buffoon.
“the only exceptions are psychopaths and sociopaths”
Thats all you.
It’s that huge (avoiding) accountability he learnt in the seventies and eighties, before all these damn kids got corrupted by Casey Anthony and OJ.
I suspected that would need explaining, but I didn’t want to go off on a tangent about my beliefs.
I don’t think free will exists. Setting aside what I’d like to believe about souls, the only thing I have evidence for is that we’re nothing but the chemical reactions happening within our bodies. Everything about who and what we are is determined by environmental factors that no one has any control over. You can’t choose how kind or intelligent you are any more than you can choose to fly.
People who do bad things need to be stopped in only order to prevent further harm. If we can change them or negotiate with them so that they won’t harm people anymore, they should be free to live in society, especially if they’re able to make reparations to their victims. If they can’t be healed or reasoned with then they’ll have to stay in prison indefinitely, but as a necessity, not as a punishment.
Imagine a rabid dog kills a child. The dog can’t choose whether it’s a good boy or a monster; it just is what it is. You can’t bring the child back to life or improve the dog’s behavior by beating it, so what’s the point?
Oh so is THAT why everyone behaves so sociopathically these days? Because your minds are not living in the real world? You believe that your bodies are detached from your free will therefore all the hideous harmful illegal things you do are not your fault? Well that’s what prison is for. To keep people like you locked away from the rest of us who know how to obey the law. I loathe coexisting with you psychotic people.